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like with Jimmy judge on the game change

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this spoke radio for

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that's right and it is Tuesday October

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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and near this is fade to black for kjc

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are the game changer Network and Katie

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are they the planet I am your host Amy

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church what is back and everybody how

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you do it tonight is night number two of

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our Halloween week here and tonight we

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have with this Maureen wood and she's

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stories from her two books co-authored

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with Ron call act the ghost chronicles

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and more ghost chronicles there it is

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tomorrow night

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your phone calls all night long three

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card pop aah pop tarot readings all

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night long I cannot wait for tomorrow

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night's gonna be amazing

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with us to tell us about the Washington

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DC disclosure fest mass meditation and

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their get go so that's gonna be all

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that will be lined up I'll announce all

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of that and the timing of it and how

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we're gonna pull that off tomorrow night

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on the show all right there you go on

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calm and you can follow me on twitter @

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JT radio what is it with the tacos Oh

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the Taco Tuesday gifts you can go check

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irruption guitar there it is

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questions this connection is untrusted I

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baloney there alright so there you go

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you can also email throughout the show

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Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio calm but you

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couldn't figure that out Jimmy head to

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me Church radio.com breaking news Boston

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gangster James Whitey Bulger was killed

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this morning at the US Penitentiary

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Hazleton in Bruceton Mills West Virginia

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a day after transfer from Oklahoma

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three people briefed on the situation

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said that a fellow inmate with mafia

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ties one fotios freddy gi's was being

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investigated for the slang you think

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that there's some Italian stuff there

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Fredi geez the US Bureau of Prisons said

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that Bulger arrived at USP Hazleton on

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Monday and was found dead at 8:20 a.m.

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yep Whitey Bulger and what was man I

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to Twitter really quick what was the

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movie with Johnny Depp right there was

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the one with Johnny Depp where he played

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whitey and then there was what was the

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one with DiCaprio the departed I said

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well is that what that was called man I

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can't even remember both were actually

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really really good movies and unless you

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knew you know who whitey was or if you

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were from a boss and or Southie or

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whatever you probably you know you know

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it's one of those things that came in

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what but then if they captured him he

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was 16 years on the run and just popped

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Monica then living in this apartment and

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Santa Monica they go in and I don't even

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apartment apart and in the walls

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they found machine guns and cash

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billions of dollars it dude was just

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walking around the streets of Santa

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Monica like like it was all good 16

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years yeah the departed that's what it

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was called thank you for that beavis and

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butthead black is something come on you

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guys can do better than that what was

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the Johnny Depp movie called I can't

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remember all right it was pretty good

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know those things that go around the

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wrists can I can I say something black

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mass thank you for that Frank wasn't the

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debt movie called powder Sandra that's

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looked for that on Monday maybe tomorrow

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night oh we got Thursday too but it's up

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to Rita she's the boss all right let's

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get this show crackin happy birthday to

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today Bush remember Bush Bush Bush

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frontman gavin rossdale today is 52

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years old and the Fonz Henry Winkler is

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powder stards

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okay Henry Winkler the Fonz today is 73

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years old on this day in history

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1938 it went down Orson Welles causes a

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nationwide panic with the broadcast of

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War of the Worlds that's right that

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realistic radio dramatization of a

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Martian invasion of Earth there was a

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now we go to the whatever Hotel in

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Manhattan worthy it was some Spanish

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guys named I forget what it was the Ron

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Padilla Orchestra or something this is

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like and that creepy music kicked in

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office this has been vetted by the way

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fader fact after leaving office Ronald

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Reagan was offered the role of Hill

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valleys mayor in Back to the Future Part

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three bet you didn't know that now you

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do that's right you're a Hollywood

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pillar of knowledge right now with that

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fader fact tonight is night number two

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of our Halloween week right here on fade

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to black

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tonight Maureen wood is going to be here

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she co-authored a book two books or

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three four books with Ron Kolak the

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latest is called mo-more ghost

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chronicles book one is called the ghost

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chronicles and and tonight she's gonna

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tell us her favorite ghost stories from

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both books all right so that's what

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we're gonna do tonight tomorrow night

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shop the Loon which is gonna be here

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we're gonna do one two three card tarot

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readings for you all night long we'll

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bust through about a hundred phone calls

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tomorrow night so line up get ready

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early and we'll get right through it and

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it'll be an amazing Halloween

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and thank you for sharing your and

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spending your a Halloween night with us

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tomorrow night I really look forward to

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this Thursday night Adrienne Valera is

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going to be here and we're gonna have a

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full lineup of guests all night long

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because we're gonna be talking about the

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Washington DC disclosure fest Mass

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meditation the cleansing of Washington

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hit this River moon coffee and let's

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talk Need to Talk because last night I

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mentioned that Tom DeLonge and Lewis

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Elizondo of to the Stars Academy Arts

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and Sciences or whatever they call that

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thing

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TTS a were in Italy to give a

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presentation now the Italian UFO group C

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UN hosted it in Rome a couple of days

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ago on October 27th 2018 and Elizondo

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discussed some UFO history including the

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famous 1952 Washington DC event and this

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is what elizondo's said and I am quoting

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here he said in the early 1950s the

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United States had another very

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significant event over our nation's

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capital once again these objects were

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identified both with the naked eye and

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again on radar and unlike Roswell many

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people had cameras and were able to take

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photographs and what you see here are

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real photographs along with the story

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the headline story that came out now

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behind him as he's doing this he's given

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this presentation he's doing this

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PowerPoint and they're there

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is the slide pops up and on this slide

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there were a couple of pictures and

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elizondo's pictures in this presentation

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came from the internet the slide that he

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had running behind him was composed of

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two images the first one is a frame from

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a CGI animated version of a picture of a

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lens flare from UFOs the secret evidence

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so it wasn't a picture of the Capitol in

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1952 and the second image in the slide a

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black and white version of an image from

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the 1954 comic book weird science

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fantasy number 26 that was found in the

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files of Project Blue Book now I have

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seen the video from the conference and I

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just gotta say this it made me more than

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a little uncomfortable which for me is

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usually a good thing but in this case it

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was the bad version of uncomfortable let

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me explain the good version just so you

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understand where I'm coming from in less

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than one lifetime ago

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just one in 1929 Edwin Hubble discovered

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the real universe and up until that time

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there were no get ready for it galaxies

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in 1929 listen to me all Edwin wasn't

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comfortable he was uncomfortable he was

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uncomfortable with the explanations of

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the stars of space in a very short order

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he changed everything because in 1929

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science said that there was only one

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galaxy

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and today that number is around 400

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billion and those are just the ones we

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think we can see now look it's very very

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simple when you are comfortable nothing

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gets done questions are not asked change

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is not made in fact you just stagnate

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because you're comfortable you don't

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step outside the bounds you don't wonder

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you don't do anything you do other

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things because you're comfortable do you

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really want me to make you uncomfortable

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you want me to make you think right make

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you ask some questions well chew on this

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now get back to DeLong and Elizondo in a

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second I'll tie it all together I always

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do but you on this dark energy is

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increasing the speed of expansion of our

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universe dark energy was discovered

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because people scientists were

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uncomfortable and trying to figure out

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what is going on the farther out you go

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to the edges of our universe the faster

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things are moving now something that is

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1 times the distance from us is moving

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two times out the distance from us it's

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actually moving at two times speed three

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times you go the further out you go it

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multiplies things are ripping fast in

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expansion the further out you go and

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these distances are so great that now at

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the horizon of everything those objects

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stars planets galaxies are approaching

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the speed of light we can still see them

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theoretically but soon they'll reach the

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speed of light

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and beyond that's right and when they do

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think about that they'll be moving

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faster than the light that they create

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just think about that for a second

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seriously they're there that they are

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not it's like poof out running the light

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that they create now this takes us into

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a real uncomfortable zone and that's ok

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because I like it that's a good place to

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be we need to be uncomfortable with a

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thought like that you don't want to be

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comfortable you don't want to let that

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go

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right youyou want to figure that out why

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what's going on and at the edge of the

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you know you always wondered what is out

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there the edge of the universe is is

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being created by things that disappear

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that's right so once they cross that

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line they're gone they're not in the

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blackness of space they are out running

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their own light the bad place is when

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you have someone like Elizondo they're

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bad uncomfortable like I have had with

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him is when you have someone like

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Elizondo getting up in front of a UFO

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audience and is supposed to be some kind

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of authority on the subject and

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discussing history history as fact and

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gets it that history wrong and not just

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wrong but ufology 101 wrong everyone and

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I mean everyone everyone studying the

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UFO subject knows that there are no

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pictures of the 1952 Washington DC UFO

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incident

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everybody knows that everybody except

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apparently Louis Elizondo and that my

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friends makes me very uncomfortable the

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bad version now I'm gonna read his

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statement again and I want you to

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understand and remember this as he said

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these words he had his powerpoint slide

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up with the images behind him for the

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audience and I'm quoting this is what he

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said in the early 1950s the United

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States had another very significant

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event over our nation's capital

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once again these objects were identified

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both with the naked eye and again on

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radar and unlike Roswell many people had

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cameras and were unable to take

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photographs

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I said unable I'm sorry

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many people had cameras and were able to

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take photographs I have something in my

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throat and what you see here are real

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photographs along with the story the

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headline story that came out had this

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happened at a conference in the States I

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could only imagine what would have

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occurred and I'm serious here I'm

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talking about flying Tomatoes right come

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to mind it would have been ugly I can

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officially say then I can't take Luis

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serious anymore I tried I really did I I

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had said over and over again my fingers

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are crossed when it comes to TT si and

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that was after the mylar balloon that

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was after everything else is just

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craziness that had happened all of it

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right but for me

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it's community first and you just cannot

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present false inaccurate and completely

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made-up information to the public

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the excitement behind December 16 2017

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the day of the

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closure it was awesome and we were all

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uncomfortable the good version and

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because we didn't just sit still and lay

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down the community was able to focus on

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what was really happening and since then

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things have just unraveled forty TSA now

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the Italian incident may very well be

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the end of days forty TSA and I know

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this Louis Elizondo really needs to take

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a few years off to study he does he's

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got to back up he's got a lot to learn

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you just can't come into this community

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with his background and to alright to

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teach us our history and get it wrong

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it's a bad bad move trust me when I say

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this when you show up at a UFO

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conference probably 95% of everybody

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that you see around you knows more than

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you it's the way that it is three years

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from now lewis can come back he can come

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back go go study woodshed and then come

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back and take the ufology 101 test and

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we'll see if he passes right now it's

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just one big epic fail and I'm very

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comfortable in saying that seriously I

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just can't go for it I can't I've said

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it before I'll say it again my fingers

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were crossed I was hoping that things

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would turn around and things would get

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right and so forth now I'm forced to go

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back and look at what happened with the

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infamous mylar balloon incident at their

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presser live which they dismissed as an

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honest mistake and then this the

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difference is simple and listen to me

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I'm going to be very clear you want to

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dismiss one is a mistake

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fine this he said clearly these are

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photographs from the Washington DC

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incident over the Capitol in 1952

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unlike Roswell people had pictures and

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here they are you can't do that here I

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can only imagine I can only imagine if

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that was done here in the States

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at AU pars meeting here in Los Angeles

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were there are some ufologist there it

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would just stand up and start yelling

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dude there's no pictures of that what

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are you talking about get out of here it

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would have gotten ugly and I'm not

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kidding about that you just can't do the

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kick or the MUFON symposium and present

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something like that with some real

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historian sitting in the audience that

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know the facts can't do it this is bad

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and I am not comfortable think about

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that this is fade to black

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I'm your host Amy Church and I'm not

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picking I'm just saying this community

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comes first that's it this community

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comes first you cannot you cannot

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continue to do this you just can't but

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now we're gonna have some fun it's night

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[Music]

598
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all right welcome back pay the block

599
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coming Elsie meter each night two of our

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Halloween week right here on fade to

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black

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tonight Maureen wood is here tomorrow

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night

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sha the loom which we're gonna do a

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hundred phone calls a hundred tarot

606
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readings tomorrow night unpaid a black

607
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this is our fifth annual Halloween

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special with sha balloon which but

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tonight it's Maureen wood and Maureen is

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a fifth-generation psychic trance medium

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for as far back as she can remember she

612
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has communicated with the dead and at

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the age of 15 she was introduced to a

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woman who studied with Laurie Cabot the

615
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official witch of Salem Massachusetts

616
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Maureen is currently the lead a psychic

617
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medium for the New England Ghost project

618
00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:52,670
in the former co-host of the popular

619
00:33:58,060 --> 00:33:55,100
ghost Chronicles radio show there you go

620
00:34:00,430 --> 00:33:58,070
Maureen also starred in the Emmy winning

621
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American builder Halloween special

622
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:02,540
Maureen has also written three books

623
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:06,290
with Ron Kolak more ghost chronicles as

624
00:34:09,730 --> 00:34:07,550
stories from the realm of the unknown

625
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:09,740
the unexplained and the unbelievable the

626
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:11,660
ghost chronicles a medium and paranormal

627
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:14,390
scientists investigates seventeen true

628
00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:18,950
hauntings and ghosts a day 365 true

629
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:21,590
tales of the spectral supernatural and

630
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just plain scary tonight is our night

631
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:26,630
number two of Halloween week and Maureen

632
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is here to share her favorite scariest

633
00:34:34,930 --> 00:34:32,390
ghost stories there you go Maureen good

634
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:34,940
evening how are you I'm fantastic how

635
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are you I love the accent already

636
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:40,130
Maureen this is the deal you get the

637
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first-time guests disclaimer so we got

638
00:34:46,450 --> 00:34:44,450
to do that first before we can continue

639
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:46,460
but you're a psychic so you already knew

640
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:49,310
this was coming right yeah okay okay

641
00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:51,410
which is it Maureen it's just you and I

642
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:53,300
sitting on my couch having a

643
00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:55,340
conversation wherever the conversation

644
00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:56,990
starts it starts wherever it ends it

645
00:35:05,710 --> 00:34:59,290
ends but we're going to end as friends

646
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:05,720
all right now the the easy question is

647
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:08,570
this I want to start here you're a

648
00:35:14,410 --> 00:35:12,110
psychic medium right so you're making

649
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:14,420
these connections and you've been doing

650
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:15,280
it for

651
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:17,530
your whole life as far as back as you

652
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:20,110
can remember what was the first time

653
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:22,600
that you you figured out that you had

654
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,510
some kind of talent like this well you

655
00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:27,520
know good question because you know when

656
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:30,190
you're when you're very young and you're

657
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:32,290
seeing spirits and they're sitting on

658
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:33,790
your bed and they're you know you're

659
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:36,790
seeing them all the time you don't think

660
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:38,740
that there's anything unusual you think

661
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:40,690
everybody is seeing them and to be

662
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:42,970
honest I think that to some extent a lot

663
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,530
of people can when they're young and

664
00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:45,760
they're children you see you know

665
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:48,100
imaginary friends and you know this one

666
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,350
says oh you know the you know are you

667
00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:52,480
seeing someone and what you want to do

668
00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:54,520
is ask them if you know can you point

669
00:35:57,660 --> 00:35:55,960
out a picture you know if you see a

670
00:36:00,750 --> 00:35:57,670
child saying they're seeing an imaginary

671
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:00,760
friend so I mean for me it was pretty

672
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:04,110
normal until I realized when I was about

673
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,130
12 or 13 and I would be talking to

674
00:36:13,830 --> 00:36:10,960
friends and they just sat there staring

675
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:13,840
at me like that you know it was not

676
00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:17,140
normal and I ended up spending my time

677
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,480
for a lot of it I live across from the

678
00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:22,480
cemetery growing up and live in a home

679
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that's about 1896 when it was built and

680
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:28,750
so let's just say my house was very

681
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:31,180
active so for me it was just you know

682
00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:35,290
everyday the the first time that it

683
00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:38,440
happens do you and especially when

684
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you're young do you have the ability to

685
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:43,420
question things and maybe think that

686
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:45,070
you're nuts right that you maybe you're

687
00:36:50,610 --> 00:36:47,650
a little crazy and this is imagination

688
00:36:53,070 --> 00:36:50,620
are you able to you know apply some

689
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,080
discernment or was it just too real and

690
00:36:58,050 --> 00:36:55,200
you knew that something was going on

691
00:37:00,660 --> 00:36:58,060
yeah I think it was for that time it was

692
00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:00,670
it was too real and I recall coming down

693
00:37:05,370 --> 00:37:02,470
you know like I had a bedroom upstairs

694
00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:05,380
and I would come downstairs and you know

695
00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:07,420
tell my mother every morning and you

696
00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:08,740
know my father would sit there and look

697
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:10,180
at me and think I'm like God what is

698
00:37:14,910 --> 00:37:12,850
wrong with her and now my mother um you

699
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:14,920
know she hadn't told me anything other

700
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:17,110
than your normal it's okay and here's

701
00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:20,500
some holy water and if I found out many

702
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:23,590
years later that you know she would tell

703
00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:25,810
me she had abilities herself but she'd

704
00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:27,160
turn up the radio she didn't want to

705
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:28,700
hear the spirits and

706
00:37:32,140 --> 00:37:30,470
you know her mother died when she was

707
00:37:34,329 --> 00:37:32,150
very young and she was raised by your

708
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,339
grandmother but back through the family

709
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:37,040
generations they would heal the you know

710
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:38,450
people in the town they would heal them

711
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,910
they would stop them from bleeding they

712
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,800
would you know people would come to them

713
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:44,720
for readings constantly so my mother was

714
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:47,690
well versed in understanding what was

715
00:37:54,579 --> 00:37:49,730
going on but my poor father well he

716
00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:54,589
wasn't and did you start to it's one

717
00:37:59,859 --> 00:37:55,790
thing to hear things

718
00:38:04,120 --> 00:37:59,869
did you see things too as well yes I did

719
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,130
and you know as I got older I want to

720
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:05,839
say that there was a time when I was in

721
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:09,530
my teens around 13 14 years old when it

722
00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:12,050
really you know the house got extremely

723
00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:14,300
active especially when you know I was by

724
00:38:19,390 --> 00:38:17,660
myself in the house and I would I would

725
00:38:21,370 --> 00:38:19,400
see things where you know a plate would

726
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:21,380
come out of the cabinet and would break

727
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:23,720
let's say on the countertop and it would

728
00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:26,480
just be bouncing up and down for it felt

729
00:38:30,099 --> 00:38:28,220
like forever or like it seemed time just

730
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:30,109
slowed down and I put my hand there and

731
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:31,760
it would be pieces popping off the

732
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:34,280
countertop on top of my hand and

733
00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:36,890
gas-jets would turn on and the bed would

734
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:39,740
vibrate and slide across the room I

735
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:43,609
actually had a time where we used to

736
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:45,530
have those insulated curtains behind the

737
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:47,569
bed to keep you know the cold from

738
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:49,730
coming through the windows and the bed

739
00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:52,130
would vibrate away from the wall and the

740
00:38:56,890 --> 00:38:54,440
curtains came out around it and we're

741
00:39:02,410 --> 00:38:56,900
literally strangling me no no no there

742
00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:02,420
yes now Maureen is this is this you

743
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:05,720
causing it in other words if you were

744
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:09,130
not there would this still have happened

745
00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:12,530
yeah you know I can't I can't say that

746
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:15,140
for sure I know that I would tell my

747
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,079
sisters and let them know what was going

748
00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:20,000
on and they too would look at me like

749
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:22,460
what is you know what is she on and I

750
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,920
was I was very young and you know I

751
00:39:30,849 --> 00:39:26,960
don't believe I was causing I might have

752
00:39:32,410 --> 00:39:30,859
because it got it became very active it

753
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,420
was home to me it's like turning on a

754
00:39:37,089 --> 00:39:34,160
light and if a spirit is trying to

755
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:37,099
communicate I would just not getting a

756
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:39,500
rampage of a lot of spirits that was

757
00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:41,130
showing up did

758
00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:43,780
did you tell your parents you know I was

759
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:46,390
almost strangled by the curtains right I

760
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,790
mean what it seemed to happen every

761
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,920
night between the you know you hear at

762
00:39:58,770 --> 00:39:55,359
3:00 in the morning right so between

763
00:40:01,410 --> 00:39:58,780
2:00 3:00 in the morning was the the

764
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:01,420
worst and that got to be when I was a

765
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:03,640
little bit older and I think it was

766
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,530
almost as if I tried to ignore like I

767
00:40:08,670 --> 00:40:07,119
was going through a stage where I kept

768
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:08,680
saying there's something wrong with me

769
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:12,040
I'm ignoring you you're not there and

770
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:14,470
when I did that that's when things kind

771
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:18,730
of get out of control now what I find

772
00:40:28,049 --> 00:40:23,880
interesting is that your partner Ron

773
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:28,059
he's he's a ghost hunter but he's on the

774
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:32,890
skeptical side of the fence so before we

775
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:35,170
get started here I want you to tell us

776
00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:37,540
about Ron first off a second

777
00:40:42,809 --> 00:40:40,540
tell me the first time he had the crap

778
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:42,819
scared out of them you know mr. skeptic

779
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:46,150
right that's the perfect that's the

780
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:49,720
perfect person did to be a victim right

781
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:51,970
but I have to say you know he hides it

782
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:55,359
very well so if you if you asked him if

783
00:41:01,710 --> 00:40:59,280
he ever had the crap scared out of him I

784
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:01,720
would say that you know he holds it

785
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:02,650
together pretty well

786
00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:05,740
he pretty much you know he doesn't look

787
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:07,660
like he's afraid and and I think if you

788
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:09,790
ask them we do have one case we worked

789
00:41:14,549 --> 00:41:12,250
on and it's in our first book goes

790
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:14,559
chronicles that we talked about it but

791
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:16,180
it was more the living that we were

792
00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:17,619
afraid of because going to an

793
00:41:22,859 --> 00:41:19,420
investigation than it is worrying about

794
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:22,869
the dead and what is it about that that

795
00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:26,530
that's a really good point it's a scary

796
00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:29,020
thing right and it doesn't matter if

797
00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:31,420
you're watching a ghost hunter

798
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:34,180
paranormal TV show you know we watch it

799
00:41:41,730 --> 00:41:36,250
to get scared we don't watch it to go

800
00:41:44,430 --> 00:41:41,740
into happy land right this is but Kent

801
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:44,440
can we get hurt what what why are we so

802
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:46,530
scared and why do we enjoy it so much

803
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:49,750
yeah well you know everybody is

804
00:41:54,299 --> 00:41:53,200
different but I will say that this you

805
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:54,309
know do you want me to give you the one

806
00:41:59,490 --> 00:41:54,850
instance

807
00:42:01,560 --> 00:41:59,500
that happened yes I do okay you know Ron

808
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:01,570
would call me all the time and say hey

809
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,370
we're gonna go on this investigation but

810
00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:05,200
he would never tell me where he would

811
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:07,000
just say can you go it'll take a couple

812
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:09,610
hours we either going dress warm or

813
00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:11,110
we're going you know we're going outside

814
00:42:16,050 --> 00:42:13,240
we're going to someone's home but he

815
00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:16,060
never gave me the specifics because you

816
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:17,830
know he just to keep me honest right he

817
00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:19,390
didn't want me going on Google and

818
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:21,880
researching the property to find out

819
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:24,010
what had happened there and so forth so

820
00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:26,680
this one day he calls me and says hey

821
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:28,870
you know Maureen it's 10:00 in the

822
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:30,730
morning now I'm thinking oh come on what

823
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,550
can happen at 10 in the morning right so

824
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:35,680
he said come on I got this investigation

825
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:37,450
that I really need to do for the this

826
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:39,370
guy and he needs help you know

827
00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:41,230
something's going on so he needs help

828
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:43,960
okay so we it's about three towns away

829
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:45,850
you know I get in the car with Ronnie

830
00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:47,650
comes and picks me up you know would she

831
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:50,500
chatting we get to this house and it's

832
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:53,320
this little ranch in this town in

833
00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:55,780
Massachusetts and we get into the house

834
00:43:00,420 --> 00:42:58,060
and I have Italia Jimmy this place look

835
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:00,430
like a tornado went through it the

836
00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:03,760
everything was smashed the glass he had

837
00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:05,500
you know like a fireplace glass in front

838
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:08,440
he had his glass coffee table the

839
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:11,590
mirrors in his bathroom just about every

840
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:14,620
cup and dish and glass that was out on

841
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:16,270
his counter everything was shattered the

842
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:18,490
floor was a hardwood floor and it was

843
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,880
covered with just debris you know glass

844
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:23,680
everywhere and then he said you know his

845
00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:27,400
phone had been taken and broken his his

846
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:29,260
friend was there with him and his friend

847
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:31,690
was using their phone together and you

848
00:43:35,730 --> 00:43:33,610
know my wallet was stolen it went

849
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:35,740
missing and you know so he was really

850
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:37,210
upset and he said you know I need to

851
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:41,290
find out what this you know spirit wants

852
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:43,450
and he was adamant that it was a spirit

853
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:45,970
of a little girl and he was living a

854
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:48,340
maureen let me jump in he was living he

855
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:51,610
was living in in all of this debris in

856
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:54,640
broken glass yeah I think what happened

857
00:43:59,070 --> 00:43:56,860
is it really escalated and you know I

858
00:44:01,560 --> 00:43:59,080
think it had happened and then it like

859
00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:01,570
the the last day or two before you know

860
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:02,950
he wanted to leave it that way to show

861
00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:05,530
us what happened Oh like so yeah so he

862
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:07,780
kind of that's why it was important for

863
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,380
Ron

864
00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:10,720
say hey we have to go today he said you

865
00:44:16,019 --> 00:44:13,240
need to get there so you know where I

866
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:16,029
agreed to go so I don't know I pulled on

867
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:17,380
my pendulum when we got in this house

868
00:44:20,579 --> 00:44:18,910
now do you are you familiar with dowsing

869
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:20,589
oh yes absolutely

870
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:23,680
okay so I used the pendulum and I was

871
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:25,569
dowsing while I was communicating with

872
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:28,210
the spirit and you know I could feel

873
00:44:33,539 --> 00:44:31,690
this really angst like an anger of this

874
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:33,549
and I felt like a man was there you know

875
00:44:38,339 --> 00:44:35,710
and he was there to kind of it felt like

876
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:38,349
revenge to me and you know this

877
00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:41,980
gentleman I say nice try to be nice in

878
00:44:46,529 --> 00:44:44,200
the house he kept was adamant you know

879
00:44:48,779 --> 00:44:46,539
this was a little girl I don't know why

880
00:44:50,819 --> 00:44:48,789
she's so upset at me why she's breaking

881
00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:50,829
things and I'm thinking why would you

882
00:44:55,230 --> 00:44:52,750
think it's a little girl so other than

883
00:44:56,759 --> 00:44:55,240
you know the fact that I don't know so

884
00:44:58,799 --> 00:44:56,769
the spirit might have been trying to get

885
00:45:01,799 --> 00:44:58,809
him to believe it was a little girl but

886
00:45:03,779 --> 00:45:01,809
it just really wasn't so you know we

887
00:45:05,849 --> 00:45:03,789
spent a good hour there we walked around

888
00:45:07,499 --> 00:45:05,859
you know I kept trying to talk to him

889
00:45:10,019 --> 00:45:07,509
but he was just fixated you know this

890
00:45:12,329 --> 00:45:10,029
had to be a little girl so he's okay so

891
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,339
I said well you know I'm sorry we if we

892
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:13,839
can't help you he was getting very upset

893
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:16,750
with us so we walked outside of the

894
00:45:21,779 --> 00:45:19,450
house and it got a real really bizarre

895
00:45:26,099 --> 00:45:21,789
from that point so this guy mousse which

896
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:26,109
is this really tall big guy pulls Ron

897
00:45:29,759 --> 00:45:28,089
aside up near the front of the house and

898
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:29,769
he takes his phone out he goes look at

899
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:31,450
my phone is ringing now this is before

900
00:45:36,299 --> 00:45:33,910
you could actually make cell phone show

901
00:45:38,490 --> 00:45:36,309
up with you know zeroes let's say from a

902
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:38,500
phone number and the phone is ringing

903
00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:40,210
and you're looking down and there's

904
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:43,240
nothing but zeros on the phone and I

905
00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:46,150
thought well okay that is odd and then

906
00:45:51,569 --> 00:45:49,180
the owner of the home grabs me by my my

907
00:45:53,849 --> 00:45:51,579
arm and he walks me down to the end of

908
00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:53,859
the driveway and he's giving the I to

909
00:45:58,410 --> 00:45:56,140
the guide in Iran like keep him up there

910
00:46:00,210 --> 00:45:58,420
and I thought what is going on and he

911
00:46:02,339 --> 00:46:00,220
starts telling me I want you to come

912
00:46:05,309 --> 00:46:02,349
here back here tonight by yourself

913
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:05,319
I am you have to come back here because

914
00:46:10,259 --> 00:46:07,750
I think she doesn't like Ron and I said

915
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:10,269
oh yeah I don't think that's a great

916
00:46:14,999 --> 00:46:12,910
idea and he started you know really

917
00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:15,009
getting at him and angry and he said I

918
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:16,750
don't know why you people don't think

919
00:46:21,269 --> 00:46:19,210
that it's a little girl you know in fact

920
00:46:21,809 --> 00:46:21,279
I know it has to be so after about a

921
00:46:23,249 --> 00:46:21,819
moment

922
00:46:26,819 --> 00:46:23,259
he turned to me and he said well you

923
00:46:31,229 --> 00:46:26,829
know I just was released from prison for

924
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:31,239
killing my best friend a hole I'm

925
00:46:37,049 --> 00:46:33,880
standing there in the way he wants you

926
00:46:38,819 --> 00:46:37,059
to come back alone exactly and I'm just

927
00:46:41,579 --> 00:46:38,829
staring up at the end of the driveway

928
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:41,589
and I'm thinking I am going to kill Ron

929
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:46,690
right you know I'm like oh my god he's

930
00:46:50,579 --> 00:46:48,729
gotten me into this again you know

931
00:46:52,799 --> 00:46:50,589
there's there's something getting in

932
00:46:54,539 --> 00:46:52,809
this into this situation that now I'm

933
00:46:57,449 --> 00:46:54,549
thinking great now I have to worry about

934
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:57,459
that so I told them oh yeah yeah well

935
00:47:01,949 --> 00:46:59,410
you know maybe we'll get in touch I'll

936
00:47:03,779 --> 00:47:01,959
talk to Ron and see and we got out of

937
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:03,789
there by the skin of our teeth and as

938
00:47:07,439 --> 00:47:05,920
we're driving away Ron's not gonna make

939
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:07,449
it you're not going back there right you

940
00:47:10,799 --> 00:47:08,890
didn't give me a phone number I'm like

941
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,809
no I did not give him my phone number

942
00:47:14,699 --> 00:47:12,400
and I can't believe that you didn't even

943
00:47:17,189 --> 00:47:14,709
you know vet this guy out like what you

944
00:47:19,319 --> 00:47:17,199
just won't you just went here and so you

945
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:19,329
know he's a little terrifying and

946
00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:21,249
honestly I don't know exactly what

947
00:47:26,459 --> 00:47:23,380
happened to him after that I wasn't

948
00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:26,469
eager to contact him and I tried to say

949
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:28,150
that if he had to contact please contact

950
00:47:32,819 --> 00:47:31,089
Ron that I couldn't be reached so it was

951
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:32,829
a little it was a little hairy I thought

952
00:47:37,529 --> 00:47:36,130
my god like you just don't know when

953
00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:37,539
you're doing these investigations you

954
00:47:41,099 --> 00:47:39,099
get you're putting a lot of trust and

955
00:47:44,219 --> 00:47:41,109
going out to these locations or

956
00:47:45,989 --> 00:47:44,229
residences and honestly you you're

957
00:47:50,509 --> 00:47:45,999
you're putting yourself at the mercy to

958
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:50,519
what you show up for did you go back no

959
00:47:59,370 --> 00:47:56,170
man you gotta go visit the serial killer

960
00:48:01,680 --> 00:47:59,380
ghost house yeah you know what we didn't

961
00:48:03,449 --> 00:48:01,690
go back because I want to say that

962
00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:03,459
someone else had he reached out to

963
00:48:07,469 --> 00:48:04,900
someone else to try to get assistance

964
00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:07,479
and I was very I was happy with that

965
00:48:12,689 --> 00:48:09,849
because you know I honestly wanted the

966
00:48:14,969 --> 00:48:12,699
spirit to get more help than him and I'm

967
00:48:18,299 --> 00:48:14,979
trying not to be judgmental but you know

968
00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:18,309
let's just say that I don't understand

969
00:48:23,299 --> 00:48:19,869
why he thought it was a little girl but

970
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:23,309
you know I guess you know denial is a

971
00:48:27,029 --> 00:48:25,150
good thing sometimes

972
00:48:30,539 --> 00:48:27,039
yeah right right how did you meet Ron

973
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:30,549
how did you guys get together well I've

974
00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:34,810
been working with Ron for about 17 years

975
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:36,460
actually one started the New England

976
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:39,160
ghost project about three years before

977
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:41,610
we get together so about 20 years ago

978
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:45,910
and you know for me I had been you know

979
00:48:51,210 --> 00:48:48,040
doing a working rather in the

980
00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:51,220
metaphysical for many years and I was a

981
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:55,240
I think I was about 15 years old as you

982
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:57,010
said I was introduced to someone who

983
00:49:02,240 --> 00:48:59,050
helped me to harness my gifts and learn

984
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:02,250
about energy and so forth and I was a

985
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:05,230
medium for adult seances for about three

986
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:08,290
years straight so years go by I have a

987
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:11,350
family and kids and I just kept working

988
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:13,210
and reading for people and I thought you

989
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:15,850
know there's got to be more right I if

990
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,520
I'm supposed to be doing this then you

991
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,800
know I need to kind of put myself out

992
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:22,720
there and if it's meant to be I'm gonna

993
00:49:26,910 --> 00:49:24,610
hook up with someone and I'll be working

994
00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:26,920
with the team and the interesting part

995
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:29,380
is about after doing having that little

996
00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:32,980
conversation I think with myself you

997
00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:35,320
know I ended up going to a location a

998
00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:37,540
store I hadn't been to and like years

999
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:38,950
and I walked in and the gentleman

1000
00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:40,570
recognized me and he said you know

1001
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,430
Maureen I haven't seen you in so long

1002
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,800
and this is odd but I have one newspaper

1003
00:49:49,230 --> 00:49:46,720
like they would get newspapers and hand

1004
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:49,240
them out to their customers and he said

1005
00:49:51,930 --> 00:49:50,470
it's really odd I have this one

1006
00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:51,940
newspaper here and for some reason I

1007
00:49:55,770 --> 00:49:54,100
think you need to have it and you know

1008
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:55,780
my husband's with me is like okay that's

1009
00:49:59,100 --> 00:49:57,130
a little weird but you know whatever

1010
00:50:01,050 --> 00:49:59,110
he's like you were very polite about it

1011
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:01,060
so I took the newspaper in the car and I

1012
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:03,910
started paging through it and at the end

1013
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:06,010
of the like the last page there was an

1014
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:08,050
article in there that was written by Ron

1015
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:10,840
in the New England goes project and I

1016
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:12,910
emailed him and evidently something I

1017
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:14,530
had written in the email caught his

1018
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:17,320
attention he called me you know we got

1019
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:18,850
to dinner went out to dinner he

1020
00:50:23,070 --> 00:50:20,560
interviewed me all mostly we had to go

1021
00:50:25,350 --> 00:50:23,080
to a haunted restaurant and I guess I

1022
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:25,360
passed the test because within a week I

1023
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:29,140
was actually going out to do you know

1024
00:50:32,910 --> 00:50:31,450
investigate let's say this Windham

1025
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:32,920
restaurant which is in our for us Burke

1026
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:35,110
as well and that was the first of a

1027
00:50:42,050 --> 00:50:37,720
four-part series for Halloween how do

1028
00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:42,060
you how do you know when you arrive

1029
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:44,030
somewhere that

1030
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:46,010
and this is kind of a two-fold question

1031
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:49,310
that it is actually you know haunted or

1032
00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:51,290
there's something going on are you

1033
00:50:59,230 --> 00:50:54,470
communicated with directly and when

1034
00:51:03,310 --> 00:50:59,240
you're watching the ghost hunting type

1035
00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:03,320
of show can you tell when something's

1036
00:51:09,790 --> 00:51:05,270
not quite right that maybe there's some

1037
00:51:11,770 --> 00:51:09,800
deception going on well as far as for

1038
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:11,780
the first part of the question when I go

1039
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:14,450
out on the site it depends where we go I

1040
00:51:18,610 --> 00:51:16,760
mean there are times we go out and it

1041
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,620
doesn't feel you know may not feel very

1042
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:20,960
active doesn't feel like a lot is going

1043
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,690
on but when I'm walking into a site that

1044
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:26,480
a spirit is very eager to communicate or

1045
00:51:32,530 --> 00:51:29,030
I can feel there's an energy there it's

1046
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:32,540
my own telltale signs are I feel like my

1047
00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:34,310
third eye you know my forehead starts

1048
00:51:38,590 --> 00:51:36,470
tingling excuse me I stopped feeling

1049
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:38,600
that the energy building and the closer

1050
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:40,850
that spirit comes and the stronger they

1051
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:43,490
get I've had times where it feels

1052
00:51:48,460 --> 00:51:45,320
literally like I'm plugged into a wall

1053
00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:48,470
socket and I'm just power like I feel

1054
00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:50,660
the my whole body just feels like it's

1055
00:51:57,460 --> 00:51:54,230
on fire with energy and that has been

1056
00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:57,470
something that you know has really I've

1057
00:52:01,360 --> 00:51:59,450
noticed over and over and over again and

1058
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:01,370
so much so that I'll turn to somebody

1059
00:52:05,980 --> 00:52:03,710
and I I'm almost dumbfounded sometimes

1060
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:05,990
because I'll look to see if anyone else

1061
00:52:10,810 --> 00:52:09,290
is feeling what I'm feeling because you

1062
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:10,820
know there's comfort in knowing that

1063
00:52:16,330 --> 00:52:13,250
you're not by yourself I guess

1064
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:16,340
as far as well and as far as your second

1065
00:52:21,610 --> 00:52:18,530
part of the question I have only seen a

1066
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:21,620
couple shows I know I'm awful but I try

1067
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:24,410
to not watch all the go shows because I

1068
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:27,170
do it it's like watching what you do all

1069
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:30,500
the time and I figure if I watch it then

1070
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:32,270
even subconsciously I couldn't actually

1071
00:52:37,180 --> 00:52:35,330
kind of mimic what they're doing and I

1072
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,190
just don't want to put it myself in that

1073
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:39,440
space yeah fair enough fair enough yeah

1074
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:41,900
you know I I don't think surgeons watch

1075
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:46,550
films of you know surgeons are watching

1076
00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:52,160
Chicago Hope then again then again you

1077
00:52:58,350 --> 00:52:53,470
never know

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00:53:01,020 --> 00:52:58,360
now we're gonna set things up for when

1079
00:53:05,310 --> 00:53:01,030
we come back after the break and when

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00:53:06,090 --> 00:53:05,320
somebody says to you and I know you get

1081
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:06,100
this all the time

1082
00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:08,410
what's your scariest story what's the

1083
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:12,670
scariest thing is there one that comes

1084
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:18,010
to mind or are they all scary well I try

1085
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:19,750
not to be scared but I don't always

1086
00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:23,170
succeed but there is there are a couple

1087
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:26,740
that come to my mind that are that are

1088
00:53:33,870 --> 00:53:30,160
terrifying actually and where what's the

1089
00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:33,880
what's the scariest city what's the most

1090
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:37,870
haunted city and is there one one place

1091
00:53:44,730 --> 00:53:41,680
that you consider the most haunted well

1092
00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:44,740
in our book Morgause chronicles we did

1093
00:53:51,570 --> 00:53:47,260
write about the daniel lady farm which

1094
00:53:55,260 --> 00:53:51,580
is in Gettysburg Pennsylvania and that I

1095
00:53:57,660 --> 00:53:55,270
would say you know I first time I ever

1096
00:54:01,290 --> 00:53:57,670
went to Gettysburg put it this way I was

1097
00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:01,300
50 miles outside of you know Gettysburg

1098
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:04,600
and actually was starting to feel ill

1099
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:07,090
and I thought I ate something bad

1100
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:09,850
because I had never experienced feeling

1101
00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:12,850
that so far away from a location but

1102
00:54:17,490 --> 00:54:14,560
obviously with the amount of deaths that

1103
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:17,500
took place during the Civil War its kind

1104
00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:20,890
of expected but so much energy and

1105
00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:24,670
intensity and tragedy that went on that

1106
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:26,950
that I you know there's many places that

1107
00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:30,040
are haunted and you know the the spirits

1108
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:32,080
are around but I would say that that is

1109
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:35,170
as one of the most haunted locations I

1110
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:37,570
just held it up to the camera to show

1111
00:54:51,390 --> 00:54:48,180
so when we come back let's actually

1112
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:51,400
start there that that you are psychic I

1113
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:54,370
gotta say I had a bookmarked and so

1114
00:55:02,520 --> 00:54:59,290
let's let's start there I I have only

1115
00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:02,530
one ghost story myself I've told him

1116
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:04,790
many times on the air I'm not gonna

1117
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:08,810
do that tonight but I only have one but

1118
00:55:15,810 --> 00:55:10,250
when it happened

1119
00:55:19,930 --> 00:55:15,820
at the time I thought it was just a

1120
00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:19,940
person and then we found out a few

1121
00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:21,860
minutes later that the house was empty

1122
00:55:29,260 --> 00:55:24,680
and I was looking at it anyway the

1123
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:29,270
moment that I found out that what I saw

1124
00:55:35,380 --> 00:55:32,330
was probably a ghost I freaked

1125
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:35,390
I was really well because before that I

1126
00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:39,170
thought I saw a person okay so it's no

1127
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:41,270
harm no foul in fact I thought it was a

1128
00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:44,960
burglar or something but then and then

1129
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:47,900
the next day when I found out that

1130
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:50,240
somebody had tried to commit suicide or

1131
00:55:56,140 --> 00:55:52,490
did commit suicide this other thing from

1132
00:55:59,590 --> 00:55:56,150
the landlord that's where I really got

1133
00:56:01,060 --> 00:55:59,600
freaked out i I don't I don't remember

1134
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:01,070
ever being comfortable around there

1135
00:56:06,940 --> 00:56:03,710
again but anyway I only have that one

1136
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:06,950
story you are gonna share a bunch with

1137
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:09,050
us tonight I wish you could see my

1138
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,930
studio here the bunker I've got all the

1139
00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:14,000
lights down everybody can see on the

1140
00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:16,670
camera that I'm here in the dark I've

1141
00:56:21,550 --> 00:56:19,190
got one little one little light on my

1142
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:21,560
face for the camera here but I'm in the

1143
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:23,150
dark and I'm ready for this let's take a

1144
00:56:27,370 --> 00:56:25,670
break and let's come back and kick off

1145
00:56:30,130 --> 00:56:27,380
this night I'm really looking forward to

1146
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:30,140
this Maureen and night number two of

1147
00:56:34,450 --> 00:56:32,690
Halloween week here on fade to black and

1148
00:56:37,690 --> 00:56:34,460
when we come back it will be the Daniell

1149
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:37,700
lady farm the book is more ghost

1150
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:40,089
Chronicles we're also

1151
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:43,390
good to go back to book one as well this

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is fade to black I'm murals to be Church

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[Music]

1247
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:37,970
all right welcome back night two of our

1248
01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:39,690
Halloween week our guest tonight Maureen

1249
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:41,880
wood she's one half of the team

1250
01:01:49,870 --> 01:01:44,700
the ghost hunting team with Ron : their

1251
01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:49,880
new book is more ghost chronicles and

1252
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:53,400
tell some scary ghost stories and the

1253
01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:56,670
first one is Maureen I'm actually gonna

1254
01:02:01,250 --> 01:01:58,500
hand it off to you but it's the Daniell

1255
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:01,260
lady farm and interesting that I would

1256
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,140
have this book marked and and open it up

1257
01:02:07,610 --> 01:02:06,000
as you said it and it was kind of funny

1258
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:07,620
because the audience actually got to see

1259
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,110
that in real time and the cameras here

1260
01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:12,720
but what happens every call yeah very

1261
01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:13,950
cool

1262
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,920
so you know as far as Gettysburg I'm

1263
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:18,960
sure many people are well versed with

1264
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:21,030
the tragedies right with all the loss of

1265
01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:25,110
life that happened in July of 1863 that

1266
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:26,820
there was just so many souls that were

1267
01:02:33,050 --> 01:02:30,210
lost so if you you know just as many of

1268
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:33,060
the the homes or restaurants and

1269
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:35,730
restaurants but back then the farms or

1270
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:37,980
locations they were actually used to

1271
01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:40,650
house you know soldiers right they were

1272
01:02:45,380 --> 01:02:42,900
injured or they would set it up as a

1273
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:45,390
base camp that they would use for

1274
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:47,610
certain battles or they would have it as

1275
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:49,290
a you know a hospital that would take

1276
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:51,810
place and this is the case for the

1277
01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:54,720
Daniel lady farm so when you go out to

1278
01:02:59,690 --> 01:02:56,760
this property they have this you know

1279
01:03:02,720 --> 01:02:59,700
this large brick house and then off to

1280
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:02,730
the side you'll have a very large barn

1281
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,410
and when you go into the barn it's a

1282
01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:07,440
dirt floor and you know all the soldiers

1283
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:09,720
that a lot of them that were there were

1284
01:03:15,770 --> 01:03:11,640
held there after they had their

1285
01:03:17,810 --> 01:03:15,780
surgeries or amputations and they had

1286
01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:17,820
signed the names and inscribed them in

1287
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:21,000
the wood you know whatever Calvary are

1288
01:03:26,090 --> 01:03:23,730
that they were had been in and so we

1289
01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:26,100
went out there to do this investigation

1290
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:29,700
with Mack Nesbitt who is a you know a

1291
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:32,040
historian out there for researching

1292
01:03:37,850 --> 01:03:34,530
during in Gettysburg and he does many

1293
01:03:39,860 --> 01:03:37,860
tours to these locations so in this one

1294
01:03:43,130 --> 01:03:39,870
building I have to tell you if you've

1295
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:43,140
never have been out to Gettysburg or if

1296
01:03:47,060 --> 01:03:44,490
you haven't been you know if you've

1297
01:03:48,569 --> 01:03:47,070
heard of this location you walk into

1298
01:03:50,999 --> 01:03:48,579
this building and

1299
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:51,009
the hardwood floors are still soaked

1300
01:03:56,729 --> 01:03:54,249
with blood and you see you know where

1301
01:03:58,499 --> 01:03:56,739
there's handprints that are this blood

1302
01:04:00,839 --> 01:03:58,509
surrounding these handprints that are on

1303
01:04:03,630 --> 01:04:00,849
the floor because a lot of these

1304
01:04:06,539 --> 01:04:03,640
soldiers had sat in there waiting for

1305
01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:06,549
the next the next be the next person to

1306
01:04:11,609 --> 01:04:09,189
have the surgery let's say and at that

1307
01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:11,619
time because of the you know the musket

1308
01:04:17,009 --> 01:04:14,380
balls and so forth that was used during

1309
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,019
that time period when it would hit an

1310
01:04:21,269 --> 01:04:19,599
arm or leg it would shatter the bone and

1311
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:21,279
there was no saving it right so they

1312
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:23,410
would have to amputate you know whatever

1313
01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:27,369
limb was injured from the musket ball

1314
01:04:32,279 --> 01:04:30,670
and basically you know they have you

1315
01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:32,289
know they would open the windows around

1316
01:04:37,799 --> 01:04:34,809
the Daniel 80 farm and they would have

1317
01:04:41,669 --> 01:04:37,809
arms and legs would be piling up outside

1318
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:41,679
the windows so it's it's really horrific

1319
01:04:47,189 --> 01:04:44,559
and they would in fact on that property

1320
01:04:51,509 --> 01:04:47,199
there's actually graves of the body

1321
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:51,519
parts that were left left behind so a

1322
01:04:56,099 --> 01:04:53,049
lot of things that had happened in there

1323
01:04:57,719 --> 01:04:56,109
one of them was I'm not familiar I don't

1324
01:05:00,839 --> 01:04:57,729
know if you're familiar Jimmy and I

1325
01:05:03,949 --> 01:05:00,849
don't say this to say o me but when I'm

1326
01:05:05,759 --> 01:05:03,959
out and I'm investigating it kind of

1327
01:05:08,219 --> 01:05:05,769
transitioned to more than just

1328
01:05:10,589 --> 01:05:08,229
mediumship at the time it's trance

1329
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:10,599
channeling the spirit that has come

1330
01:05:15,209 --> 01:05:11,920
through and I don't know if you're

1331
01:05:19,919 --> 01:05:15,219
familiar with what that means but it

1332
01:05:24,829 --> 01:05:19,929
sounds like a lot of residual things are

1333
01:05:27,449 --> 01:05:24,839
happening to as well a lot of unresolved

1334
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:27,459
situations that are that are that are

1335
01:05:34,019 --> 01:05:30,910
there that that haven't haven't gone

1336
01:05:36,689 --> 01:05:34,029
back and get fixed yeah absolutely I

1337
01:05:39,989 --> 01:05:36,699
mean for me what happens if spirit is

1338
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:39,999
trying to communicate and I'll often try

1339
01:05:44,249 --> 01:05:42,160
to communicate back I'll open up a

1340
01:05:47,069 --> 01:05:44,259
little bit right and the spirit will

1341
01:05:48,929 --> 01:05:47,079
come through and so if I've got to be

1342
01:05:51,209 --> 01:05:48,939
careful what I ask them because if I ask

1343
01:05:54,449 --> 01:05:51,219
them how they died they'll you know

1344
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:54,459
happily show me and being empathic and

1345
01:05:59,650 --> 01:05:56,529
feeling their energy illnesses if I'm

1346
01:06:01,900 --> 01:05:59,660
reliving the last moments of their life

1347
01:06:03,730 --> 01:06:01,910
is is pretty terrifying for me and a lot

1348
01:06:06,370 --> 01:06:03,740
of times thank thankfully I work with

1349
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,380
Ron and the team because he now

1350
01:06:11,049 --> 01:06:08,079
understands that if that's taking place

1351
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:11,059
and I need assistance he's there to kind

1352
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,730
of help bring me back if need be and I

1353
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:15,680
don't always excuse me recall what has

1354
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:18,170
happened during those moments but I will

1355
01:06:25,450 --> 01:06:20,690
tell you in danly daniel lady farm i

1356
01:06:27,549 --> 01:06:25,460
recall feeling that I was in this room I

1357
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:27,559
was up against this corner of this room

1358
01:06:34,510 --> 01:06:31,369
and I was the anxiety I felt the fear

1359
01:06:36,849 --> 01:06:34,520
the terror and I felt like I was trying

1360
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:36,859
to stop them from trying to cut my arm

1361
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:39,890
off and the paint I could feel his pain

1362
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:42,319
of the soldier and it was just she and

1363
01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:45,470
misery for this poor man hmm so that was

1364
01:06:49,870 --> 01:06:47,809
tough enough but then you know a little

1365
01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:49,880
while and so I I feel bad but didn't

1366
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,500
when I was channeling it really wasn't a

1367
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,119
pretty sight to see evidently and this

1368
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:55,280
poor me and Mark Nesbit you know let's

1369
01:07:01,319 --> 01:06:56,720
just say he's afraid of me now but

1370
01:07:05,260 --> 01:07:01,329
anyway like a side effect I guess of it

1371
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:05,270
but he told us this tale that happened

1372
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:07,520
in this place don't mind you it's a it's

1373
01:07:11,380 --> 01:07:09,529
a tourist place right so they'll have

1374
01:07:13,930 --> 01:07:11,390
tourists come out and they will talk

1375
01:07:16,299 --> 01:07:13,940
about the location they talk about the

1376
01:07:19,870 --> 01:07:16,309
horrors that took place with all those

1377
01:07:21,609 --> 01:07:19,880
soldiers but what happened one night is

1378
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:21,619
there's a caretaker that takes care of

1379
01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:25,039
the property and Mark Nesbit had left

1380
01:07:29,859 --> 01:07:27,260
one night after a tour and he went home

1381
01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:29,869
and the caretaker called him you know

1382
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:31,670
maybe a few hours later when it was I

1383
01:07:35,950 --> 01:07:34,250
don't know if it was midnight and Mark

1384
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:35,960
Nesbit you know asked what's the problem

1385
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:37,609
he said you have to come back here he

1386
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:39,710
said this floor it looks like it's wet

1387
01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:42,410
with blood and so that you know mark

1388
01:07:48,370 --> 01:07:45,740
went back and being very you know into

1389
01:07:50,109 --> 01:07:48,380
research and scientific he we actually

1390
01:07:52,089 --> 01:07:50,119
have a picture of this and unfortunately

1391
01:07:55,059 --> 01:07:52,099
it's not in the book but we thought when

1392
01:07:57,089 --> 01:07:55,069
we do our talks we show this and he put

1393
01:07:59,950 --> 01:07:57,099
a ruler out on the side of it you know

1394
01:08:01,750 --> 01:07:59,960
he measured the length of the liquid

1395
01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:01,760
that was on the floor

1396
01:08:07,299 --> 01:08:04,430
he took a swab of it put it into a

1397
01:08:09,460 --> 01:08:07,309
plastic bag put it in his car and then

1398
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:09,470
you know he really took down as much

1399
01:08:13,660 --> 01:08:11,510
information as he could and he said you

1400
01:08:15,279 --> 01:08:13,670
know and then he said okay well well

1401
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,289
and see what happens he takes the ruler

1402
01:08:19,809 --> 01:08:18,080
away and he talks to the the caretaker

1403
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:19,819
and tells him listen I'm gonna go home

1404
01:08:23,919 --> 01:08:21,230
and I'll come back in the morning and

1405
01:08:26,260 --> 01:08:23,929
we'll revisit this so now mark goes out

1406
01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:26,270
of the you know the home and he drives

1407
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:28,790
back to his house well he gets another

1408
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:30,770
phone call so the caretaker said to him

1409
01:08:33,849 --> 01:08:32,239
you have to come back here you're not

1410
01:08:36,099 --> 01:08:33,859
gonna believe this and he said what I'm

1411
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:36,109
on my way home he's like no you have to

1412
01:08:42,490 --> 01:08:39,409
come back so he came back to the Daniell

1413
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:42,500
lady farm he gets into the house and the

1414
01:08:48,340 --> 01:08:45,710
blood was gone right so what happened

1415
01:08:50,590 --> 01:08:48,350
was not only was the blood gone but if

1416
01:08:52,570 --> 01:08:50,600
you looked around where the liquid had

1417
01:08:54,129 --> 01:08:52,580
been there was like a fine dust you know

1418
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:54,139
when you have hardwood floor and you get

1419
01:08:58,899 --> 01:08:55,520
a little bit dust going on that you

1420
01:09:00,939 --> 01:08:58,909
didn't clean it there was again instead

1421
01:09:03,220 --> 01:09:00,949
of being liquid it was completely gone

1422
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:03,230
and there was a fine sheen of dust that

1423
01:09:07,599 --> 01:09:06,290
was covering that area and they couldn't

1424
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,609
make sense of it they thought you know

1425
01:09:10,539 --> 01:09:09,440
what is going on because you know the

1426
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:10,549
only thing they could think of as

1427
01:09:14,769 --> 01:09:13,250
possibly almost like a time slip no like

1428
01:09:17,260 --> 01:09:14,779
the past kind of came up with the

1429
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:17,270
present or intersected and then just

1430
01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:19,850
disappeared so now thinking oh my god I

1431
01:09:24,879 --> 01:09:22,699
get a sample in my car is that gone too

1432
01:09:27,849 --> 01:09:24,889
so we ran out to his car and sure enough

1433
01:09:30,340 --> 01:09:27,859
the sample was still there so he sent it

1434
01:09:32,110 --> 01:09:30,350
to a crime lab from you know I had some

1435
01:09:34,649 --> 01:09:32,120
friends they sent it to a crime lab and

1436
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:34,659
it came back and it was human blood no

1437
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:39,350
yeah so I you know that farm is

1438
01:09:43,870 --> 01:09:42,290
extremely you know extremely active you

1439
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:43,880
know and I would say if anybody's out in

1440
01:09:48,820 --> 01:09:46,159
that area and decides you know look up

1441
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:48,830
mock nesbitt look up the Daniel lady

1442
01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:51,290
farm and make that one of your stops how

1443
01:09:57,850 --> 01:09:54,860
how you know you you know how scary that

1444
01:10:02,500 --> 01:09:57,860
is just listening to that the when you

1445
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:02,510
when he first saw the blood you said

1446
01:10:08,410 --> 01:10:05,030
liquid and I find that internet did it

1447
01:10:11,169 --> 01:10:08,420
look like blood to you well I didn't see

1448
01:10:15,610 --> 01:10:11,179
it MOC Nesbit was we saw the picture and

1449
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:15,620
I looked it was red but not completely

1450
01:10:22,450 --> 01:10:19,250
red there was liquid mixed in you know

1451
01:10:24,669 --> 01:10:22,460
it looked as if I I don't know like it

1452
01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:24,679
wasn't a thick thick blood but it was

1453
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:26,900
bleeding and the floor was covered in

1454
01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:27,480
blood

1455
01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:32,430
like a good two feet of it when when you

1456
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:34,350
hear something like that I like that the

1457
01:10:39,490 --> 01:10:37,890
time slip think I actually thought the

1458
01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:39,500
same thing especially when he said that

1459
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:42,630
it was later it was just you know dust

1460
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:45,090
was covering the area and and and it

1461
01:10:49,220 --> 01:10:48,330
wasn't wet anymore there's that part of

1462
01:10:51,860 --> 01:10:49,230
it

1463
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:51,870
woody what do you make of that when you

1464
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:55,170
visit something like that like

1465
01:11:00,320 --> 01:10:57,960
Gettysburg and you see something and you

1466
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:00,330
may think it's a reenactment right but

1467
01:11:07,970 --> 01:11:04,110
you're actually seen ghost or right is

1468
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:07,980
this something that's that's common you

1469
01:11:13,730 --> 01:11:10,350
know I don't know if it's common I would

1470
01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:13,740
say that you know I'm sure that you know

1471
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:15,420
I've heard tales and I've seen different

1472
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:16,770
you know different events that have

1473
01:11:22,580 --> 01:11:20,490
happened where you know for instance you

1474
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:22,590
might see you know someone talks about a

1475
01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:24,900
certain location at a certain time you

1476
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:26,280
know they'll see like a troop of

1477
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:28,770
soldiers walking down this street for

1478
01:11:34,580 --> 01:11:32,610
instance and it may happen you know then

1479
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:34,590
those are more like a replay you know

1480
01:11:39,020 --> 01:11:36,330
like you're watching a video that are

1481
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:39,030
taking place but again do we know that

1482
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:41,070
for sure how do we know it's not like a

1483
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:42,810
timeline you know like it's almost like

1484
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:45,930
the past coming coming together with the

1485
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:49,890
present so is that a rewind is that like

1486
01:11:54,650 --> 01:11:52,050
a video that's replaying on a certain

1487
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:54,660
time or is that something that time is

1488
01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:58,050
crossing Gigi rabbit just uh posted this

1489
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:01,080
up in Twitter and says have you heard of

1490
01:12:06,650 --> 01:12:03,210
the Spaghetti Warehouse in Houston Texas

1491
01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:06,660
I have not but I would love to hear

1492
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:08,580
about it he says it's one of the most

1493
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:10,830
popular urban legends of a haunted place

1494
01:12:17,540 --> 01:12:14,610
in Houston that that's been known for

1495
01:12:18,740 --> 01:12:17,550
decades this spaghetti warehouse our

1496
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:18,750
ghost

1497
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:26,760
you know it depends where you talk to I

1498
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:28,980
mean because you know there are many

1499
01:12:34,190 --> 01:12:31,920
thought processes on that you know you

1500
01:12:38,030 --> 01:12:34,200
know I don't even necessarily know for

1501
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:38,040
me if I say you know I think personally

1502
01:12:40,669 --> 01:12:39,360
like when someone says someone dies and

1503
01:12:43,069 --> 01:12:40,679
goes to heaven I don't

1504
01:12:47,779 --> 01:12:43,079
sarah leaf my opinion is heavens not a

1505
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,789
place but a vibration so to me we're

1506
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:49,679
kind of all in this space but we're

1507
01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:51,030
vibrating at different levels

1508
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:54,360
energetically now just listening to this

1509
01:13:03,850 --> 01:12:56,760
show right you're telling these stories

1510
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:03,860
are we in danger am I in danger psychic

1511
01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:07,289
I say that because I have to tell you a

1512
01:13:18,469 --> 01:13:15,420
little story and don't be afraid so I

1513
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:18,479
you know our books came in and my

1514
01:13:23,449 --> 01:13:20,130
husband you know he's does construction

1515
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:23,459
right so he's he goes to work and you

1516
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:25,110
know he's funny because he's so you know

1517
01:13:30,350 --> 01:13:27,239
grounded and he pretends like he never

1518
01:13:32,779 --> 01:13:30,360
talks about what I do and then yet he

1519
01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:32,789
comes home and he says yeah you know

1520
01:13:35,299 --> 01:13:34,860
this guy at work would love one of your

1521
01:13:37,699 --> 01:13:35,309
books

1522
01:13:40,699 --> 01:13:37,709
and I thought well how did that subject

1523
01:13:43,219 --> 01:13:40,709
come up right and so anyway he said well

1524
01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:43,229
no and and he got our first book and so

1525
01:13:47,569 --> 01:13:45,329
this time he's working again and this

1526
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:47,579
person wants the second book now let's

1527
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:49,650
talk about the fact that he this

1528
01:13:53,330 --> 01:13:51,689
gentleman lives with his wife and i

1529
01:13:56,060 --> 01:13:53,340
haunted they believe a haunted house

1530
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:56,070
okay there you go and they don't want me

1531
01:13:59,060 --> 01:13:57,510
to come home they don't want me to come

1532
01:14:01,609 --> 01:13:59,070
investigate because they're afraid it's

1533
01:14:03,469 --> 01:14:01,619
gonna start getting active again which I

1534
01:14:05,899 --> 01:14:03,479
said that's fine I mean you know it's

1535
01:14:08,270 --> 01:14:05,909
free well I'm not you know I don't have

1536
01:14:10,850 --> 01:14:08,280
to go to your house that's fine so I

1537
01:14:14,569 --> 01:14:10,860
give him a book maybe last week he gets

1538
01:14:16,759 --> 01:14:14,579
a book so he tells my husband two days

1539
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:16,769
ago well I'm giving you the book back

1540
01:14:20,959 --> 01:14:19,409
right and he said why I said well

1541
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:20,969
because now things are starting to

1542
01:14:26,509 --> 01:14:23,760
happen again in the house and I said Oh

1543
01:14:28,939 --> 01:14:26,519
blame me right so you know something's

1544
01:14:30,649 --> 01:14:28,949
going to happen and so now you know

1545
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:30,659
something little things start to happen

1546
01:14:34,250 --> 01:14:32,729
and he's now his wife is saying you need

1547
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:34,260
to get the book out of the house and

1548
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:37,199
like oh now do I believe that that's the

1549
01:14:40,609 --> 01:14:37,530
case

1550
01:14:44,270 --> 01:14:40,619
hmm I don't know but anything's possible

1551
01:14:47,839 --> 01:14:44,280
but I will say intentions a big thing

1552
01:14:50,929 --> 01:14:47,849
right so to me the intent of you know

1553
01:14:52,759 --> 01:14:50,939
spirits and you know believing a lot of

1554
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:52,769
times in and kind of I hate to say

1555
01:14:56,779 --> 01:14:54,030
inviting them

1556
01:14:58,459 --> 01:14:56,789
but just putting them on the forefront

1557
01:15:00,109 --> 01:14:58,469
of your mind maybe these things were

1558
01:15:02,089 --> 01:15:00,119
going on for these people and they had

1559
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:02,099
desensitized themselves but now that

1560
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:04,260
they're revisiting reading into some of

1561
01:15:10,510 --> 01:15:07,110
the paranormal stories right right it's

1562
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:10,520
kind of opening that awareness again

1563
01:15:16,549 --> 01:15:13,170
I'll tell you something really funny I

1564
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:16,559
said I had one ghost story but about a

1565
01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:20,250
year ago Rita and I we wrapped the show

1566
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:23,460
we go home and we're we're sitting in

1567
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:26,210
bed and we're talking about the show and

1568
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:30,239
in we have the typical master bedroom

1569
01:15:36,890 --> 01:15:33,030
you know at the foot you know at the far

1570
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:36,900
side of the bedroom master bath and in

1571
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:40,110
that in in that areas of a master you

1572
01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:41,730
know walk in clot it's another room

1573
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:44,070
right a walk-in closet and that's on the

1574
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:48,000
right on the left the the commode the

1575
01:15:56,180 --> 01:15:51,710
John the toilet is in its own separate

1576
01:15:59,299 --> 01:15:56,190
room right with the door and which is

1577
01:16:05,600 --> 01:15:59,309
always closed but that particular toilet

1578
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:05,610
the seat is like hard to move right it's

1579
01:16:13,279 --> 01:16:08,730
impossible to move and yes

1580
01:16:15,890 --> 01:16:13,289
I leave it up the lid not the seat the

1581
01:16:18,379 --> 01:16:15,900
lid the lid is always up on the toilet

1582
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:18,389
it's it's a it's a creek it's hard it

1583
01:16:24,109 --> 01:16:20,730
just so many way it just always stays up

1584
01:16:27,950 --> 01:16:24,119
and and so we're sitting or sitting here

1585
01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:27,960
in bed talking got books out or whatever

1586
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:33,630
and boom oh boy let's see Klaus and Rita

1587
01:16:45,819 --> 01:16:37,020
it turns to me and she goes you gonna go

1588
01:16:48,020 --> 01:16:45,829
check that out I thought you were honey

1589
01:16:50,180 --> 01:16:48,030
she's like are you gonna go check it out

1590
01:16:54,970 --> 01:16:50,190
I'm like I don't I did it was the toilet

1591
01:16:57,890 --> 01:16:54,980
seat I fell down exactly we did it can't

1592
01:17:03,709 --> 01:16:57,900
very smart woman I did you know what

1593
01:17:05,299 --> 01:17:03,719
Maureen I didn't do it just like you

1594
01:17:07,530 --> 01:17:05,309
know just like any you know it's just

1595
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:07,540
let's not disturb the spear

1596
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:09,550
and what about you know and and what

1597
01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:13,150
about that by the way do you advise

1598
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:14,950
people you know they go and they watch

1599
01:17:19,170 --> 01:17:17,050
these ghost hunting shows so now they

1600
01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:19,180
want to go and capture EVPs in their

1601
01:17:23,550 --> 01:17:21,070
house and walk around the house like zak

1602
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:23,560
bagans you know trying to trying to

1603
01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:25,450
anger the spirits and get something to

1604
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:29,680
happen do you what what kind of advice

1605
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,110
you dispense with people that want to

1606
01:17:38,250 --> 01:17:34,800
investigate their own house be careful

1607
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:38,260
and I say that in such a way because you

1608
01:17:44,820 --> 01:17:41,650
know we have EVP specialists that are on

1609
01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:44,830
our team and let's just say that from

1610
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,020
what I've heard and I don't really go

1611
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:49,120
and record them myself right because I'm

1612
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:52,810
doing other things but when you're using

1613
01:17:56,940 --> 01:17:54,970
the e V you know taking EVPs for

1614
01:17:58,380 --> 01:17:56,950
instance now I'm not saying you have to

1615
01:18:01,170 --> 01:17:58,390
be terrified of everywhere you go

1616
01:18:03,870 --> 01:18:01,180
however depending on where your location

1617
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:03,880
is and you're you know you are making

1618
01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:05,650
the acknowledgement right that you're

1619
01:18:10,590 --> 01:18:07,780
communicating in front of heard when you

1620
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:10,600
are starting to get voices on the

1621
01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:12,400
recorder sometimes it takes a while you

1622
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:14,140
may not get you know anything for a

1623
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:16,810
while but if you keep at it you can but

1624
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:18,730
from what I heard that what happens is

1625
01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:20,290
sometimes you get the lower-lying

1626
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:22,150
energies that are out there so you might

1627
01:18:28,230 --> 01:18:25,000
hear swearing and screaming and it could

1628
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:28,240
be very disconcerning learning rather to

1629
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:30,130
hear that and you're not you know you're

1630
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:31,750
expecting to have this sweet spirit

1631
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:33,790
right someone's in your home they're

1632
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:35,290
very kind and they're very sweet you'll

1633
01:18:38,190 --> 01:18:36,010
hope so anyway

1634
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:38,200
and I'm not saying that everything's

1635
01:18:43,650 --> 01:18:40,690
demonic but there are spirits out there

1636
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,660
that may not be the sweetest that you

1637
01:18:48,570 --> 01:18:45,760
might be picking up on your EVPs for

1638
01:18:53,130 --> 01:18:48,580
EVPs let's say what kind of recorders do

1639
01:18:56,490 --> 01:18:53,140
you guys use I want to say that they use

1640
01:18:58,530 --> 01:18:56,500
just Panasonic's there was a certain

1641
01:19:00,240 --> 01:18:58,540
brand and I cannot recall the top of my

1642
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:00,250
head but there's there was one that was

1643
01:19:05,010 --> 01:19:02,650
out there that it was like Panasonic 360

1644
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:05,020
or 560 or something like that and it was

1645
01:19:09,930 --> 01:19:08,110
one that was like you know it was hot by

1646
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:09,940
if you could get it on eBay because they

1647
01:19:13,380 --> 01:19:11,380
were a little bit older but they would

1648
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:13,390
supposedly had a lot more clarity and

1649
01:19:19,710 --> 01:19:16,000
when you were recording you can get a

1650
01:19:20,850 --> 01:19:19,720
much better sound quality we use we've

1651
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:20,860
got tascam

1652
01:19:35,670 --> 01:19:32,890
we use the tascam dr-05 a piece freaked

1653
01:19:40,230 --> 01:19:35,680
me out I mean seriously I mean out of

1654
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:40,240
everything and what's your give me an

1655
01:19:45,930 --> 01:19:44,560
EVP story well one of them actually that

1656
01:19:49,140 --> 01:19:45,940
Ron and I were just chuckling about

1657
01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:49,150
today was you know you people will say

1658
01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:50,830
hey do spirits know that you're coming

1659
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:52,870
right or do they recognize you when

1660
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:55,930
you're there and as as odd as this may

1661
01:19:59,820 --> 01:19:57,730
sound we actually went to this one

1662
01:20:01,170 --> 01:19:59,830
investigation one time and you know when

1663
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:01,180
you're setting up your equipment and

1664
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:03,190
you're putting out the recorders and

1665
01:20:08,340 --> 01:20:06,250
you're not even totally ready yet right

1666
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:08,350
but you have your equipment out and

1667
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:10,270
maybe someone has it recording at the

1668
01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:13,330
time but what we later heard was you

1669
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:14,830
know we were asking questions of the

1670
01:20:20,970 --> 01:20:16,780
homeowners and in the back it said it's

1671
01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:20,980
the Ghostbusters man you think it was

1672
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:23,140
kind of funny and so much so it sounded

1673
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:25,900
so clear that we did many talks for

1674
01:20:30,750 --> 01:20:28,090
years and Ron would play that as we

1675
01:20:33,930 --> 01:20:30,760
walked in just because it was it really

1676
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:33,940
was an EVP that he picked up how do you

1677
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:36,730
how do you do that how do you stir the

1678
01:20:43,650 --> 01:20:39,850
spirit to get them or our EVPs

1679
01:20:46,620 --> 01:20:43,660
accidental you know we making it

1680
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:46,630
conscious intent on to when we start

1681
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:49,330
communicating so everybody is a part of

1682
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:51,760
the team so as I'm feeling that energy

1683
01:20:57,870 --> 01:20:54,910
come in and I can feel them trying to

1684
01:21:00,780 --> 01:20:57,880
communicate we'll ask questions well you

1685
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,790
know we'll kind of hover around you know

1686
01:21:03,870 --> 01:21:02,320
we get into a circle and then we have

1687
01:21:05,580 --> 01:21:03,880
someone taking four you know doing the

1688
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:05,590
photography another person with the

1689
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:08,080
thermal you know maybe a thermal imaging

1690
01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:11,650
camera or temperature sensors we'll have

1691
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:13,540
some videos depending on what if it's

1692
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:15,310
something they see lights or activity

1693
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:17,410
that goes on objects moving we'll make

1694
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:19,120
sure to videotape and then we have

1695
01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:21,490
someone there with us doing the EVPs and

1696
01:21:25,230 --> 01:21:23,020
we'll stand there and take moments and

1697
01:21:28,590 --> 01:21:25,240
ask a question and allow moment you know

1698
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:28,600
allow a response to come let's tell me

1699
01:21:33,450 --> 01:21:32,770
about there's so many great titles here

1700
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:33,460
but I

1701
01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:39,520
got a few that were marked and the 1859

1702
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:45,670
house what happened there that one was I

1703
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:48,130
don't know if you recall the history of

1704
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:51,580
it but the 1859 house was pretty much

1705
01:21:56,190 --> 01:21:53,770
the movers and shakers of time in that

1706
01:21:59,130 --> 01:21:56,200
time period they were you know they had

1707
01:22:01,440 --> 01:21:59,140
kind of they play gambling and they did

1708
01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:01,450
had pool tables and you know it was a

1709
01:22:05,010 --> 01:22:03,160
place for the gentlemen's club to meet

1710
01:22:06,570 --> 01:22:05,020
and they had you know ladies of the

1711
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:06,580
night would say that they would bring to

1712
01:22:13,860 --> 01:22:10,090
this location and so forth and you know

1713
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:13,870
Ron you know set this event up with you

1714
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:16,150
know bringing about maybe 30 to 35

1715
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:18,760
people if not more on an actual

1716
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:20,650
investigation you know we did an

1717
01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:22,030
investigation and teach people how to

1718
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,480
investigate so the really the most

1719
01:22:31,530 --> 01:22:28,000
active location there is down in the

1720
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,540
basement so you know all of us are we

1721
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:33,520
split up the teams and then half of us

1722
01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:35,290
went down in the basement and this this

1723
01:22:41,550 --> 01:22:39,040
particular investigation was one that I

1724
01:22:43,140 --> 01:22:41,560
had been early on so maybe I'd been a

1725
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:43,150
month or two with the with the ghost

1726
01:22:48,750 --> 01:22:47,530
project so when we got inside the 1859

1727
01:22:50,970 --> 01:22:48,760
house you know we're down in the

1728
01:22:52,770 --> 01:22:50,980
basement and Ron and I was still kind of

1729
01:22:55,410 --> 01:22:52,780
learning you know from each other so

1730
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:55,420
working together and I'm over there

1731
01:22:59,940 --> 01:22:57,250
starting to feel energy so I'm trying to

1732
01:23:02,640 --> 01:22:59,950
explain to Ron that I can feel a

1733
01:23:05,459 --> 01:23:02,650
presence of this spirit there and he was

1734
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:05,469
you know he was angry right and you know

1735
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:07,390
not that everybody is but I could feel

1736
01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:09,460
his anger me that he got hit in the back

1737
01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:11,020
of the head he had been killed by a

1738
01:23:15,570 --> 01:23:13,000
woman there and he was so furious and I

1739
01:23:18,030 --> 01:23:15,580
I recall hearing the recording later but

1740
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:18,040
I was screaming and swearing at you know

1741
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:19,510
the woman I'll try to be nice on the

1742
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:23,110
radio and so what happened is I told Ron

1743
01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:25,330
I could feel this energy around us and

1744
01:23:30,630 --> 01:23:27,940
so Ron I'm sure you're familiar with an

1745
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:30,640
EMF meter right of course yes okay so

1746
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:33,280
you know Ron being Ron you know he's got

1747
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,050
the EMF meter and he's holding it waist

1748
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,600
high and you know he's not sure to trust

1749
01:23:41,070 --> 01:23:39,280
me right he's saying oh you know

1750
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:41,080
oh come on Marvin there can't be anybody

1751
01:23:45,959 --> 01:23:42,910
here because it's not even going off I

1752
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:45,969
don't even register anything micron he's

1753
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:47,200
above our heads it was

1754
01:23:53,220 --> 01:23:49,180
almost as if the spirit was hovering

1755
01:23:55,170 --> 01:23:53,230
over us and you know I just I could feel

1756
01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:55,180
this anger I mean I couldn't even

1757
01:24:01,440 --> 01:23:57,960
express it more than just you know

1758
01:24:03,660 --> 01:24:01,450
putrid anger and so he's floating above

1759
01:24:06,150 --> 01:24:03,670
us and so Ron I said please put the

1760
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:06,160
meter up above our heads so he puts the

1761
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:09,040
meter over my head and it starts blaring

1762
01:24:13,470 --> 01:24:10,960
like it didn't even stop it's just going

1763
01:24:17,310 --> 01:24:13,480
non-stop red it's beeping you know

1764
01:24:18,780 --> 01:24:17,320
continuously and so you know you have to

1765
01:24:21,420 --> 01:24:18,790
be careful when you're communicating

1766
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:21,430
with the spirit because if you're too

1767
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:23,530
little and you're not you know you got

1768
01:24:27,180 --> 01:24:24,850
to be careful what you say in other

1769
01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:27,190
words so you know I'm listening to what

1770
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:29,470
Ron saying he's like oh yeah wow he's

1771
01:24:32,970 --> 01:24:30,250
right here

1772
01:24:35,580 --> 01:24:32,980
so he's like well he's above us tell him

1773
01:24:37,860 --> 01:24:35,590
reel em in while in my mind you know how

1774
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:37,870
you just you hear what someone says it

1775
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:39,580
was almost as if I was consciously

1776
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:42,850
saying that and the spirit came from

1777
01:24:48,540 --> 01:24:45,130
above me came right down straight into

1778
01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:48,550
my abdomen and he followed it with the

1779
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:50,470
EMF meter like he literally followed the

1780
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:53,290
stream of the light coming right down to

1781
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:55,650
my abdomen and I dropped like a rock

1782
01:25:01,400 --> 01:24:58,330
this you know the energy came in it

1783
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:01,410
literally took every bit of energy I had

1784
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,670
absorbed my own I couldn't even get off

1785
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:04,960
the floor

1786
01:25:09,390 --> 01:25:07,510
you know I'm thinking oh lesson learned

1787
01:25:11,550 --> 01:25:09,400
over here you know be careful what you

1788
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:11,560
ask for you know real lemon probably

1789
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:13,600
wasn't the best word to ask and

1790
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:15,670
thankfully at that time there was a

1791
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:17,350
couple of women who were from a

1792
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,330
spiritualist church there and they had

1793
01:25:24,810 --> 01:25:21,520
worked with energy and Reiki masters and

1794
01:25:26,670 --> 01:25:24,820
so they sat there with me you know

1795
01:25:28,860 --> 01:25:26,680
trying to help me build my energy back

1796
01:25:31,170 --> 01:25:28,870
up so that I could continue for the

1797
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:31,180
night and it was it was rough it was a

1798
01:25:38,430 --> 01:25:33,910
rough night in there know what did you

1799
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:38,440
feel like could you tell that you you

1800
01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:40,510
know your body was entered by a you know

1801
01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:44,710
by an entity yeah you know it happened

1802
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:46,870
you know I'm channeling you can feel

1803
01:25:51,570 --> 01:25:49,330
that but I always say that it's like a

1804
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:51,580
comic dance right so if a spirit comes

1805
01:25:56,190 --> 01:25:54,130
in sometimes if they come in lightly

1806
01:25:58,710 --> 01:25:56,200
it's not a big deal and I could feel

1807
01:26:00,000 --> 01:25:58,720
that energy and I can communicate and

1808
01:26:02,220 --> 01:26:00,010
try to relay what they

1809
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:02,230
want or they might stand next to me and

1810
01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:04,150
close to me and I'm actually you know

1811
01:26:07,290 --> 01:26:05,590
getting the thought in my mind or they

1812
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:07,300
whisper in my ear or it's a little

1813
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:08,560
different every time

1814
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:11,710
but when I say they cross that karmic

1815
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:14,170
line is because they don't care if they

1816
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:16,720
steal your energy right in fact they

1817
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:18,880
need energy to manifest so guess what

1818
01:26:25,050 --> 01:26:21,760
you have energy I'm gonna take it and so

1819
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:25,060
that's what coming in in in to me it's

1820
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:27,040
it's as if you know you're stealing

1821
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:29,530
everything of energy that I have and I

1822
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:32,320
feel after like a one out you know dish

1823
01:26:36,180 --> 01:26:34,210
rag you know when you say if you can

1824
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:36,190
imagine a dish rag and you you wring

1825
01:26:41,010 --> 01:26:38,560
that out and it's just limp and lifeless

1826
01:26:42,990 --> 01:26:41,020
that's what I feel like right did your

1827
01:26:47,580 --> 01:26:43,000
did your legs just give out and what

1828
01:26:50,490 --> 01:26:47,590
yeah what did you see by the way did

1829
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:50,500
your vision get blurred it went dark

1830
01:26:55,860 --> 01:26:53,770
yeah went dark yeah it just went blurry

1831
01:26:59,100 --> 01:26:55,870
and dark and the energy gets so

1832
01:27:01,860 --> 01:26:59,110
escalated that I I you know it got

1833
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:01,870
escalated and then almost as if I had a

1834
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:04,000
glass of water that they just emptied I

1835
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:06,730
had nothing left I literally they had to

1836
01:27:12,570 --> 01:27:08,770
drag me over to the side so that they

1837
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:12,580
could help me get on my feet what do you

1838
01:27:17,010 --> 01:27:14,650
get energized from that not from the

1839
01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:17,020
incident but D are you ready to just go

1840
01:27:23,370 --> 01:27:19,060
back and face the spirits now you know

1841
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:23,380
maybe a little anger you know sometimes

1842
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,690
I you know if for those who have read

1843
01:27:29,940 --> 01:27:27,520
the first book right there'd be like oh

1844
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,950
my god Maureen like what are you doing

1845
01:27:33,570 --> 01:27:32,080
and and you have to understand when

1846
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:33,580
you're writing the stories you're not

1847
01:27:37,410 --> 01:27:35,770
gonna pick the boring ones right you're

1848
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,420
gonna pick the stories that were intense

1849
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:39,760
so in those moments I would read it

1850
01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:42,000
after myself and go yeah I left a lot

1851
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:45,070
things we get really intense I need to

1852
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:47,020
breathe you know I literally need to get

1853
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:49,090
off the property get out of the way for

1854
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:52,000
a few minutes and get catch my breath so

1855
01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:54,130
that I can build my energy back up and

1856
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:56,440
then go back in and you can't let

1857
01:28:01,410 --> 01:27:58,570
yourself be afraid you know I think I'm

1858
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afraid later if I watch a scary movie

1859
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Jim Jimmy I'm a terrified but if I go on

1860
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investigation I'm fine and I think it's

1861
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because I can allow myself to be in that

1862
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fearful state versus if I'm on an

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investigation

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if I allow myself to get too afraid I'm

1865
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easy pickings I keep you know I keep

1866
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thinking to myself it's really funny

1867
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I just remembered another ghost story of

1868
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ours ok I'll share my brief little

1869
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boring stuff when we come back hey

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Maureen would and when we come back

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we're gonna go to book one now we'll

1872
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take a trip backwards and Maureen is

1873
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gonna tell us the story about when she

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brought a friend home and it's not what

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two black with Ginny church on the

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GameChanger network hi I'm Lisa Vance

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your listings Jimmy Church this is

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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welcome back fade to black cameo

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@jj charge radio hashtag F to B is the

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sandbox loss of ghostly activity going

1960
01:33:31,530 --> 01:33:28,750
on there tonight is night to about

1961
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:31,540
Halloween week marinwood is here with us

1962
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:34,210
and her book that she co-wrote with her

1963
01:33:39,540 --> 01:33:36,850
partner Ron Kolok is called more ghost

1964
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:39,550
Chronicles and Maureen so I'm sitting

1965
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:41,170
here thinking you know I've got one

1966
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ghost story actually you know they're

1967
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starting to come back one briefly

1968
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Rihanna Rita and I are staying up at

1969
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Mount Shasta and we're in an air B&B

1970
01:33:58,109 --> 01:33:55,960
this this house it's probably 100 150

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01:34:00,990 --> 01:33:58,119
year old house really old lots of

1972
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:01,000
antiques little cards were laid out

1973
01:34:04,979 --> 01:34:03,130
around the house describing the

1974
01:34:09,660 --> 01:34:04,989
different antiques and and in the

1975
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:09,670
bedroom was a wardrobe that had an old

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01:34:15,060 --> 01:34:12,010
dress in it and there's a description of

1977
01:34:16,590 --> 01:34:15,070
this this lace white like wedding dress

1978
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:16,600
the thing that was in there that was

1979
01:34:23,580 --> 01:34:20,050
kind of creepy and but anyway all of the

1980
01:34:25,770 --> 01:34:23,590
door handles throughout the house were

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the the old ones right with the crystal

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knobs

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you know old and the bedroom door we had

1984
01:34:36,090 --> 01:34:33,610
to push shut and and force it shut and

1985
01:34:39,930 --> 01:34:36,100
then wiggle the handle and wait for it

1986
01:34:41,939 --> 01:34:39,940
to catch right for it to close so I

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01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:41,949
closed it right now push the door and I

1988
01:34:48,990 --> 01:34:44,290
would look you know in it latches and

1989
01:34:51,629 --> 01:34:49,000
we're sitting there in bed and and for a

1990
01:35:03,359 --> 01:34:51,639
few minutes and all of a sudden the door

1991
01:35:05,580 --> 01:35:03,369
literally goes click we're staring at

1992
01:35:15,870 --> 01:35:05,590
each other and she's are you gonna shut

1993
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:15,880
the door nope that door stayed open but

1994
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:20,050
it unlatched it went click click and I

1995
01:35:24,990 --> 01:35:22,239
know it I knew it when I heard it go

1996
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:25,000
click click it was gonna open and and it

1997
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did and it you know like 6 inches and

1998
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I'm like

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01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:31,290
at it and it's like okay you know let's

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01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:33,810
everything is cool everything is cool

2001
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:36,570
nothing bad has happened but they just

2002
01:35:41,210 --> 01:35:39,090
let us know you know it was it was is

2003
01:35:44,980 --> 01:35:41,220
pretty interesting okay let's go back

2004
01:35:47,900 --> 01:35:44,990
let's go back to book one and and the

2005
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:47,910
the story which I haven't heard yet and

2006
01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:49,830
I'm gonna let everybody know Maureen

2007
01:35:54,770 --> 01:35:51,990
said you know I've got to tell you the

2008
01:35:56,270 --> 01:35:54,780
story from book one when I when I

2009
01:36:00,200 --> 01:35:56,280
brought somebody home with me so what

2010
01:36:01,610 --> 01:36:00,210
happened okay so well I can say it

2011
01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:01,620
easily because my husband's sleeping

2012
01:36:07,130 --> 01:36:05,070
right now so he won't hear me but let's

2013
01:36:08,930 --> 01:36:07,140
just say that my husband's you know

2014
01:36:11,630 --> 01:36:08,940
those great guys always try to have been

2015
01:36:13,970 --> 01:36:11,640
supportive of me however you know it's

2016
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:13,980
it's interesting to have a medium for a

2017
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:16,110
wife and he's terrified of the dead

2018
01:36:22,250 --> 01:36:18,810
right so you know it's just this

2019
01:36:24,830 --> 01:36:22,260
opposites right so all the time we've

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01:36:27,890 --> 01:36:24,840
been married for god it'll be 35 years

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01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:27,900
next year so you know I've been 19 years

2022
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:30,570
old when I got married to him and you

2023
01:36:34,910 --> 01:36:32,970
know I was still doing all this then and

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01:36:35,390 --> 01:36:34,920
you know he'd say oh you'll grow out of

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01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:35,400
it

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01:36:39,860 --> 01:36:37,530
you know this because he wanted to say

2027
01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:39,870
this he couldn't understand why I would

2028
01:36:44,150 --> 01:36:41,310
chase the dead and I'm like I'm not

2029
01:36:46,670 --> 01:36:44,160
chasing the dead they're chasing me but

2030
01:36:48,770 --> 01:36:46,680
so now that little bit of background so

2031
01:36:50,810 --> 01:36:48,780
let's just say we do an investigation

2032
01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:50,820
which is in book 1 and it's of at the

2033
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:53,150
Concord colonial Inn in Concord mass

2034
01:36:57,860 --> 01:36:56,370
it's an end that obviously was

2035
01:37:01,750 --> 01:36:57,870
originally a home and then a boarding

2036
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:01,760
house and it was built before the 1700s

2037
01:37:06,500 --> 01:37:04,170
so it's been out around for quite a

2038
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:06,510
while in fact I think Thoreau and his

2039
01:37:11,870 --> 01:37:08,850
aunts had lived there for a period of

2040
01:37:14,450 --> 01:37:11,880
time so you know it's rumored to be

2041
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,460
built on an Indian burial ground and all

2042
01:37:20,090 --> 01:37:16,800
this stuff and this in itself is very

2043
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:20,100
very paranormally active right so you

2044
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:23,490
have the haunted room 24 you have books

2045
01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:24,960
will come flying off the shelves

2046
01:37:30,410 --> 01:37:28,380
downstairs in their dining room you know

2047
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:30,420
lights you know in fact the wait staff

2048
01:37:36,290 --> 01:37:34,290
and nobody wants to go you know upstairs

2049
01:37:38,060 --> 01:37:36,300
to that room because they're literally

2050
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:38,070
terrified so as part of our

2051
01:37:42,220 --> 01:37:39,770
investigation

2052
01:37:43,810 --> 01:37:42,230
Ron in the you know and his team were

2053
01:37:46,540 --> 01:37:43,820
invited so we all went to go there we

2054
01:37:48,460 --> 01:37:46,550
had dinner Ron and his wife were gonna

2055
01:37:49,810 --> 01:37:48,470
be staying in that room for the night

2056
01:37:53,050 --> 01:37:49,820
and we were gonna do the radio show

2057
01:37:54,730 --> 01:37:53,060
before we you know we left for the night

2058
01:37:56,710 --> 01:37:54,740
and Ron and his wife stayed there they

2059
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:56,720
had the cameras on and so forth now

2060
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,600
here's the deal so Ron and his wife with

2061
01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:01,520
their another raw team members it's you

2062
01:38:05,050 --> 01:38:03,190
know their couples right so

2063
01:38:06,730 --> 01:38:05,060
boyfriend/girlfriend husband/wife you

2064
01:38:09,820 --> 01:38:06,740
know everybody's together me and by

2065
01:38:11,650 --> 01:38:09,830
myself so my husband would always try to

2066
01:38:13,540 --> 01:38:11,660
be supportive you know and he'd say I'm

2067
01:38:15,460 --> 01:38:13,550
gonna come meet you for dinner and then

2068
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:15,470
he would always call and cancel I'm late

2069
01:38:20,350 --> 01:38:17,690
I can't make it and I know it's because

2070
01:38:22,510 --> 01:38:20,360
he's terrified right so I say that's

2071
01:38:24,490 --> 01:38:22,520
fine well anyway the night goes on we

2072
01:38:27,070 --> 01:38:24,500
investigate so we're in this haunted

2073
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:27,080
room 24 we do the radio show well I'm

2074
01:38:30,730 --> 01:38:28,610
like look it's 2:00 in the morning now

2075
01:38:32,530 --> 01:38:30,740
I'm literally going home I can't you

2076
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:32,540
know and they're asking so why didn't

2077
01:38:36,460 --> 01:38:34,490
Steve show up tonight and I'm like yeah

2078
01:38:38,860 --> 01:38:36,470
yeah well you guys are lucky because of

2079
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:38,870
you know your couples right and I said

2080
01:38:43,150 --> 01:38:41,840
yeah that's okay so I said I'm gonna use

2081
01:38:45,790 --> 01:38:43,160
your bathroom so I go into the bathroom

2082
01:38:47,380 --> 01:38:45,800
now Jimmy I'm in there I you know

2083
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:47,390
obviously use the facilities I go to

2084
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:49,130
wash my hands I look up in the mirror

2085
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:51,530
and in front of me now is this woman

2086
01:38:57,700 --> 01:38:55,280
with dark hair I'm more blonde right so

2087
01:39:00,820 --> 01:38:57,710
this is dark hair in a Victorian gown

2088
01:39:02,620 --> 01:39:00,830
and I thought oh boy you know and I'm

2089
01:39:04,150 --> 01:39:02,630
you know wanted to speak with her but I

2090
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:04,160
said you know I'm sorry I'm so tired

2091
01:39:09,220 --> 01:39:06,170
I'll make a trip back I'll come back and

2092
01:39:11,230 --> 01:39:09,230
I'll talk with you so I know it's kind

2093
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:11,240
of crazy but I was exhausted I mean we

2094
01:39:17,470 --> 01:39:13,930
had we had been there for hours right

2095
01:39:19,810 --> 01:39:17,480
investigating all night and so I come

2096
01:39:21,700 --> 01:39:19,820
out of the bathroom and Ron right away

2097
01:39:23,710 --> 01:39:21,710
they're talking to me about again why

2098
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:23,720
didn't Steve come and that's too bad and

2099
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:25,610
I said you know what

2100
01:39:29,890 --> 01:39:27,650
he just needs a nickname he needs an

2101
01:39:31,630 --> 01:39:29,900
experience for himself what don't say

2102
01:39:33,940 --> 01:39:31,640
that in a haunted environment probably

2103
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:33,950
not a good thing to say wait wait you

2104
01:39:38,170 --> 01:39:36,050
didn't tell Ron by the way I was just

2105
01:39:41,260 --> 01:39:38,180
you know chatting with somebody in the

2106
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:41,270
bathroom yeah I did but that's when I

2107
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:42,800
said I did tell him like immediately

2108
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:44,960
after I said in fact you are psychic

2109
01:39:48,190 --> 01:39:46,370
because that's exactly what I told him

2110
01:39:51,190 --> 01:39:48,200
I'm like by the way there's a woman in

2111
01:39:53,380 --> 01:39:51,200
your bathroom and you know Ron being Ron

2112
01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:53,390
the you know he's always missed

2113
01:39:57,670 --> 01:39:55,760
- funny you know he's like woohoo right

2114
01:39:59,470 --> 01:39:57,680
he jumps on the bed he makes this big

2115
01:40:01,360 --> 01:39:59,480
scene of like come and get me and I'm

2116
01:40:03,550 --> 01:40:01,370
like don't say that I said and you know

2117
01:40:04,780 --> 01:40:03,560
what be careful what you wish for us so

2118
01:40:07,630 --> 01:40:04,790
I brought up you know the Ghostbusters

2119
01:40:10,210 --> 01:40:07,640
right I said remember the librarian how

2120
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,220
she was so beautiful but you know when

2121
01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:12,800
you know they you know when the spirit

2122
01:40:15,940 --> 01:40:14,450
came out her face shriveled away to

2123
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:15,950
nothing but a skull and eye sockets

2124
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:18,800
right so he's like yeah yeah yeah

2125
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:21,050
whatever so now I'm thinking okay good

2126
01:40:26,770 --> 01:40:24,320
night I'm going home so I leave but now

2127
01:40:29,110 --> 01:40:26,780
Jimmy I usually when I leave I you know

2128
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:29,120
do a cleansing and I do all this stuff

2129
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:31,760
for myself just to get myself clear so

2130
01:40:36,190 --> 01:40:34,010
when I go home for some reason that

2131
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:36,200
night I was exhausted I just could not

2132
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:38,090
even like I could barely keep my eyes

2133
01:40:42,970 --> 01:40:40,010
open to drive home so I said I'm just

2134
01:40:44,110 --> 01:40:42,980
gonna go home so I go home I get into my

2135
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:44,120
house now it's like 3:00 in the morning

2136
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:46,370
you know I go to bed

2137
01:40:53,170 --> 01:40:50,330
so I never slept so good I get up the

2138
01:40:55,450 --> 01:40:53,180
next morning however my poor husband

2139
01:40:58,060 --> 01:40:55,460
when I tell you he looked like a deer in

2140
01:41:00,610 --> 01:40:58,070
the headlights he was furious he looked

2141
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:00,620
at me and he's like you you go and

2142
01:41:05,740 --> 01:41:03,170
investigate the paranormal you sleep in

2143
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:05,750
another bedroom I don't what are you

2144
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:08,690
talking about right so he says you you

2145
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:10,790
know you came home last night you know

2146
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:13,250
you I heard you get in bed he goes and

2147
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:14,570
then a little while later you were

2148
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:16,730
rubbing my back and I'm like no I wasn't

2149
01:41:22,660 --> 01:41:19,850
you know and he's like yeah he said you

2150
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,670
know and then I was kissing you and you

2151
01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:24,560
know and he says and all of a sudden the

2152
01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:26,450
light came in from the curtains of the

2153
01:41:30,490 --> 01:41:28,790
window and I looked down he said and

2154
01:41:32,980 --> 01:41:30,500
your face shriveled away to nothing but

2155
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:32,990
a skull and eye sockets he goes and then

2156
01:41:37,870 --> 01:41:34,400
I turned to my left and you were

2157
01:41:40,780 --> 01:41:37,880
sleeping well I'm sorry but I you know

2158
01:41:42,940 --> 01:41:40,790
think of I finally you know vindicated I

2159
01:41:45,130 --> 01:41:42,950
was laughing so hard and I'd the poor

2160
01:41:48,010 --> 01:41:45,140
guy he was so angry with me

2161
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:48,020
and he was terrified so anyway after he

2162
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:50,090
kind of you know dealt with it I said

2163
01:41:53,410 --> 01:41:51,770
okay can I write that and can I put that

2164
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:53,420
in a book and he's like yeah yeah sure

2165
01:41:58,330 --> 01:41:54,800
sure cuz he's thinking you'll never

2166
01:42:01,780 --> 01:41:58,340
write it and sure enough it made it into

2167
01:42:03,700 --> 01:42:01,790
our first book and you know when the

2168
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:03,710
publishers saw it they were like oh my

2169
01:42:07,209 --> 01:42:05,330
god you have to tone that down that's

2170
01:42:09,490 --> 01:42:07,219
just that's not funny I'm like no

2171
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:09,500
it's funny when you're a medium and you

2172
01:42:14,350 --> 01:42:11,330
live with someone who thinks that you're

2173
01:42:17,459 --> 01:42:14,360
you know a little bit crazy sometimes

2174
01:42:19,540 --> 01:42:17,469
and you know and then he finally

2175
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:19,550
experiences for himself

2176
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:22,880
right right yes that is funny wow that

2177
01:42:35,709 --> 01:42:34,030
it's kind of an evil laugh - you're

2178
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:35,719
right he needs yeah he doesn't need to

2179
01:42:43,330 --> 01:42:38,960
hear the story again but how how is he

2180
01:42:46,300 --> 01:42:43,340
today is is he one of us now no because

2181
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:46,310
well you know it's funny because if he

2182
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:47,930
went to a book signing one time with us

2183
01:42:52,660 --> 01:42:50,480
and you know there was someone in the

2184
01:42:54,729 --> 01:42:52,670
audience and after the stories you know

2185
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:54,739
they they he was in the audience and

2186
01:42:59,229 --> 01:42:56,090
wasn't up front or anything and the

2187
01:43:01,930 --> 01:42:59,239
person said um yeah I want to ask the

2188
01:43:03,820 --> 01:43:01,940
husband of Maureen a question and he's

2189
01:43:07,209 --> 01:43:03,830
like what what like what do you want to

2190
01:43:10,150 --> 01:43:07,219
ask me and they said you know what do

2191
01:43:12,970 --> 01:43:10,160
you think and he said well you know what

2192
01:43:15,729 --> 01:43:12,980
he says I know there's something I don't

2193
01:43:18,970 --> 01:43:15,739
know what it is but let's just say I

2194
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:18,980
have to sleep with her and I thought

2195
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:20,810
well thanks I guess that's an okay

2196
01:43:28,060 --> 01:43:22,030
answer

2197
01:43:29,470 --> 01:43:28,070
he kissed a ghost yeah oh my god you

2198
01:43:36,430 --> 01:43:29,480
cheated on me with a ghost

2199
01:43:37,959 --> 01:43:36,440
no and and the the ghost touched him you

2200
01:43:42,700 --> 01:43:37,969
know that's that's getting into the

2201
01:43:48,490 --> 01:43:42,710
physical side of things do you have a

2202
01:43:51,670 --> 01:43:48,500
story of being touched well I have some

2203
01:43:55,660 --> 01:43:51,680
some ones that are not in the book but

2204
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:55,670
and it actually happened you know in in

2205
01:43:59,200 --> 01:43:57,770
a three tenement building when I was

2206
01:44:02,140 --> 01:43:59,210
going out with my husband we were

2207
01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:02,150
engaged to get married and he lived in

2208
01:44:07,030 --> 01:44:04,480
the top of this three tenement home and

2209
01:44:09,670 --> 01:44:07,040
Lawrence Massachusetts and I have to

2210
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:09,680
tell you I oh you know did you ever get

2211
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:11,449
that feeling you walk up to something

2212
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:12,890
you know it's not right you don't know

2213
01:44:18,820 --> 01:44:15,410
why but you just don't feel good about

2214
01:44:20,060 --> 01:44:18,830
it all the time sure yeah so you know

2215
01:44:21,770 --> 01:44:20,070
even then so

2216
01:44:23,959 --> 01:44:21,780
I used to tell him you know I really

2217
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:23,969
don't like it here I don't want to be in

2218
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:25,770
this place I don't like he had you know

2219
01:44:31,729 --> 01:44:28,770
he had some friends that lived with him

2220
01:44:33,319 --> 01:44:31,739
so he wasn't by himself but this one

2221
01:44:35,780 --> 01:44:33,329
night and you know at the time we were

2222
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:35,790
young and my husband used to you know

2223
01:44:40,339 --> 01:44:38,010
he's a construction worker and he was a

2224
01:44:42,109 --> 01:44:40,349
hunter and you know he had a habit of

2225
01:44:43,580 --> 01:44:42,119
not being you know didn't want to he

2226
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:43,590
would take too many days off so of

2227
01:44:47,450 --> 01:44:45,690
course me being very responsible even at

2228
01:44:49,490 --> 01:44:47,460
19 I'd say to him you know we're getting

2229
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:49,500
married in a couple months and you

2230
01:44:53,810 --> 01:44:51,690
really need to kind of you know focus on

2231
01:44:55,819 --> 01:44:53,820
staying at work and you know all this

2232
01:44:59,060 --> 01:44:55,829
stuff and he always would just go off

2233
01:45:00,740 --> 01:44:59,070
and hunt so anyway this one day I decide

2234
01:45:02,660 --> 01:45:00,750
I'm gonna stay at his house with him and

2235
01:45:03,319 --> 01:45:02,670
I'll get up and leave to go to work in

2236
01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:03,329
the morning

2237
01:45:08,990 --> 01:45:05,460
you know before I go home or at night

2238
01:45:10,939 --> 01:45:09,000
and so you know it was raining and I

2239
01:45:12,740 --> 01:45:10,949
remember really raining really hard and

2240
01:45:13,970 --> 01:45:12,750
they left him and his friends left for

2241
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:13,980
work they said we're gonna work anyway

2242
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:16,050
so they take off out of this three

2243
01:45:20,419 --> 01:45:17,610
tenement building where I fall back to

2244
01:45:24,350 --> 01:45:20,429
sleep and then I wake up because I hear

2245
01:45:26,510 --> 01:45:24,360
the kitchen door slam and the next thing

2246
01:45:29,419 --> 01:45:26,520
I know you know the bedroom door opens

2247
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:29,429
up and there was someone standing there

2248
01:45:34,399 --> 01:45:31,530
that I thought was my husband and he was

2249
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:34,409
dressed in hunting gear and so right

2250
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:36,719
away you know I'm getting really upset

2251
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:38,489
thinking while you told me you're gonna

2252
01:45:42,260 --> 01:45:40,530
be good and you're gonna go to work and

2253
01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:42,270
yet you're standing here and you're in

2254
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:44,760
hunting gear but when I looked at him

2255
01:45:52,370 --> 01:45:48,090
Jimmy the guy the spirit the eyes were

2256
01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:52,380
completely black and it just came and

2257
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:54,300
turned and then I couldn't even highly

2258
01:45:58,399 --> 01:45:56,400
move but my eyes look to the left and

2259
01:46:00,979 --> 01:45:58,409
right on the wall was all my husband's

2260
01:46:03,020 --> 01:46:00,989
hunting clothes so I'm thinking oh dear

2261
01:46:07,459 --> 01:46:03,030
God and it took me a moment to realize

2262
01:46:09,530 --> 01:46:07,469
that it wasn't my husband or my fiancee

2263
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:09,540
I don't know what it was I think it was

2264
01:46:13,399 --> 01:46:11,250
a doppelganger so it was someone that

2265
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:13,409
that trying to take the shape of him to

2266
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,050
come near me and this thing came right

2267
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:19,199
close to me lean down over my face it

2268
01:46:23,810 --> 01:46:21,210
was like an inch away from my face and

2269
01:46:25,729 --> 01:46:23,820
it was one of those when you hear that

2270
01:46:30,169 --> 01:46:25,739
somebody has those terrors that you

2271
01:46:33,740 --> 01:46:30,179
can't move I it felt like forever that I

2272
01:46:36,020 --> 01:46:33,750
could not even move to get off the bed

2273
01:46:37,970 --> 01:46:36,030
but I you know for me I close my eyes

2274
01:46:39,979 --> 01:46:37,980
and I prayed and prayed and pray and I

2275
01:46:43,580 --> 01:46:39,989
open my eyes and it it finally

2276
01:46:45,979 --> 01:46:43,590
dissipated and I got up and I'll tell

2277
01:46:47,810 --> 01:46:45,989
you I never moved so fast getting

2278
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:47,820
dressed throwing my clothes halfway on

2279
01:46:51,410 --> 01:46:49,920
sliding down you know getting out of the

2280
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:51,420
third floor and just getting out to my

2281
01:46:55,490 --> 01:46:53,370
car and I told my husband I'm like never

2282
01:46:57,770 --> 01:46:55,500
I am never going there again I'm never

2283
01:46:59,660 --> 01:46:57,780
you know staying in that your building

2284
01:47:02,090 --> 01:46:59,670
that's it I'm not because I don't want

2285
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:02,100
to deal with that and so he's you know

2286
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:03,600
him and his friends were chuckling over

2287
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:06,090
it but then the landlord came by and he

2288
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:07,710
told the story to the landlord thinking

2289
01:47:11,870 --> 01:47:10,260
the landlord laugh it off and he told

2290
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:11,880
them well why do you think I left

2291
01:47:16,610 --> 01:47:14,370
because he used to live on that floor

2292
01:47:18,260 --> 01:47:16,620
and that was the bedroom he lived in

2293
01:47:20,060 --> 01:47:18,270
with his wife and something would pull

2294
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:20,070
up the covers and pull them up and down

2295
01:47:24,500 --> 01:47:23,130
up and down like all night things would

2296
01:47:28,010 --> 01:47:24,510
happen and it turned out that that

2297
01:47:29,540 --> 01:47:28,020
building used to be a funeral parlor the

2298
01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:29,550
three floors and they would embalm the

2299
01:47:34,910 --> 01:47:33,060
bodies in the building and that you know

2300
01:47:36,530 --> 01:47:34,920
because it always had a very weird look

2301
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:36,540
to it is because it only had a little

2302
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:39,090
square or a patch of grass but that's

2303
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:40,710
where they put the sign for the funeral

2304
01:47:45,530 --> 01:47:42,810
parlor how could that not make it to the

2305
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:45,540
book I know but that happened before the

2306
01:47:50,450 --> 01:47:48,570
ghost project I mean I'm working on my

2307
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,460
own book actually and that's probably

2308
01:47:55,310 --> 01:47:52,800
it's gonna go in that right okay I get

2309
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:55,320
you I get you it's like how good is the

2310
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:02,540
the things that wasn't but those are the

2311
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:05,610
you know but again I when it was goes

2312
01:48:09,740 --> 01:48:08,010
Chronicles is because it's you know part

2313
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:09,750
of the team right so those are the ones

2314
01:48:14,060 --> 01:48:12,480
that we put in the book and one more

2315
01:48:15,770 --> 01:48:14,070
give us one more from the ghost

2316
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:15,780
chronicles and then we'll uh we'll get

2317
01:48:20,270 --> 01:48:17,370
back to the new book more ghost

2318
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:20,280
chronicles alright so let's see which

2319
01:48:24,530 --> 01:48:23,370
one oh how about Lizzie Borden house II

2320
01:48:30,350 --> 01:48:24,540
there you go

2321
01:48:33,310 --> 01:48:30,360
know why every you you just look at that

2322
01:48:36,530 --> 01:48:33,320
house and you know what's haunted

2323
01:48:38,810 --> 01:48:36,540
it's horrific I have to tell you and

2324
01:48:41,450 --> 01:48:38,820
it's not very big is it it's a tiny

2325
01:48:44,959 --> 01:48:41,460
little place actually it's not it's a

2326
01:48:47,109 --> 01:48:44,969
good size it's not it's not that it's

2327
01:48:49,149 --> 01:48:47,119
not really tiny it's broken up just

2328
01:48:50,500 --> 01:48:49,159
New England homes right there built it

2329
01:48:53,259 --> 01:48:50,510
almost seems like they build them and

2330
01:48:55,209 --> 01:48:53,269
then they build rooms off of them so the

2331
01:48:56,919 --> 01:48:55,219
Lizzie Borden house was actually being

2332
01:49:00,879 --> 01:48:56,929
used for a little while as like a

2333
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:00,889
bed-and-breakfast it's it's pretty yeah

2334
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:04,610
if anybody is not familiar you know

2335
01:49:09,310 --> 01:49:07,010
Lizzie Borden and I'd have to go back

2336
01:49:13,629 --> 01:49:09,320
and read the dates but I want to say in

2337
01:49:18,009 --> 01:49:13,639
the 1900s early 1900's or late 1800's

2338
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:18,019
actually she was accused of had gone to

2339
01:49:23,169 --> 01:49:21,679
court rather too for you know believing

2340
01:49:25,330 --> 01:49:23,179
the stepmother killing the stepmother

2341
01:49:28,569 --> 01:49:25,340
and her father and hacking them with a

2342
01:49:31,839 --> 01:49:28,579
axe numerous times you know in the head

2343
01:49:33,729 --> 01:49:31,849
and and so forth but now growing up in

2344
01:49:35,859 --> 01:49:33,739
Massachusetts how could you not know

2345
01:49:38,169 --> 01:49:35,869
right you know all about the Lizzie

2346
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:38,179
Borden tragedy right that took place and

2347
01:49:42,549 --> 01:49:40,159
you know we all heard about the little

2348
01:49:45,580 --> 01:49:42,559
rhyme that would go along with it for

2349
01:49:47,290 --> 01:49:45,590
years as kids but I'd never been there

2350
01:49:49,569 --> 01:49:47,300
and I'd never walked through the house

2351
01:49:51,159 --> 01:49:49,579
I'd never gone and you know done in

2352
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:51,169
investigations you know never did

2353
01:49:55,540 --> 01:49:53,840
anything and then one time Ron said you

2354
01:49:57,609 --> 01:49:55,550
know hey we got this place we're going

2355
01:49:59,529 --> 01:49:57,619
and Fall River of Massachusetts and

2356
01:50:01,029 --> 01:49:59,539
we're going out I'm thinking mmm is that

2357
01:50:03,399 --> 01:50:01,039
I wondered if it was going to be the

2358
01:50:06,850 --> 01:50:03,409
Lizzie Borden house and when we got

2359
01:50:08,290 --> 01:50:06,860
there I'll tell you walking by going

2360
01:50:09,790 --> 01:50:08,300
into the room and walking by the

2361
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:09,800
basement you know there was like a

2362
01:50:14,350 --> 01:50:11,599
basement going downstairs in the little

2363
01:50:18,699 --> 01:50:14,360
hallway and just walking by the hallway

2364
01:50:20,770 --> 01:50:18,709
I could feel just the the evil that's

2365
01:50:22,389 --> 01:50:20,780
what it felt like to me is evil coming

2366
01:50:24,029 --> 01:50:22,399
up from the basement I thought oh this

2367
01:50:28,389 --> 01:50:24,039
is gonna be a wonderful night you know

2368
01:50:32,109 --> 01:50:28,399
and we walked in and you know we go to

2369
01:50:34,119 --> 01:50:32,119
do that investigation and what happened

2370
01:50:36,879 --> 01:50:34,129
was I started feeling energy and almost

2371
01:50:39,159 --> 01:50:36,889
immediately in the house and you know

2372
01:50:40,750 --> 01:50:39,169
Ron's like getting really frustrated

2373
01:50:42,189 --> 01:50:40,760
with me because he's like come on we're

2374
01:50:44,830 --> 01:50:42,199
not even set up we got to set everything

2375
01:50:46,869 --> 01:50:44,840
up you know and we actually had some

2376
01:50:48,609 --> 01:50:46,879
people from England that were visiting

2377
01:50:51,359 --> 01:50:48,619
some we had Gavin Cromwell who was

2378
01:50:53,770 --> 01:50:51,369
another medium there was actually a

2379
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,780
television crew that were coming with us

2380
01:50:58,359 --> 01:50:56,239
you know they were into doing interviews

2381
01:51:00,120 --> 01:50:58,369
here so we thats why ron chose the

2382
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:00,130
Lizzie Borden house

2383
01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:02,170
so we get there and you know finally

2384
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:03,790
when everybody's set up you know we

2385
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:06,190
decide all the lights are out now we're

2386
01:51:11,069 --> 01:51:08,650
gonna go walk upstairs and see you know

2387
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:11,079
what room we go into and you know we'll

2388
01:51:16,290 --> 01:51:13,690
see if we can make communication now

2389
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:16,300
when we went into this room I didn't

2390
01:51:21,450 --> 01:51:18,690
even know whose room it was had no

2391
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:21,460
understanding of where we were in Lizzie

2392
01:51:25,379 --> 01:51:24,250
Lizzie Borden house but you know Ron's

2393
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:25,389
like okay let's see if we can make

2394
01:51:30,569 --> 01:51:28,690
communication and once again I started

2395
01:51:33,450 --> 01:51:30,579
feeling this energy you know and a

2396
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:33,460
started ramping up and remember I told

2397
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:36,880
you when you asked how they died they're

2398
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:39,880
more than happy to show you right so I

2399
01:51:43,319 --> 01:51:41,530
want to say that we communicated with

2400
01:51:46,500 --> 01:51:43,329
Abby at the time which is the stepmother

2401
01:51:50,189 --> 01:51:46,510
so as I'm standing there with Gavin

2402
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:50,199
Cromwell and Ron and the whole team the

2403
01:51:54,270 --> 01:51:52,570
energy gets so strong and Jimmy I felt

2404
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:54,280
like somebody was hacking me in the back

2405
01:52:00,899 --> 01:51:57,810
of the head with an axe I start

2406
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:00,909
involuntary gasping and gagging I don't

2407
01:52:04,620 --> 01:52:02,590
even know but I saw the video later

2408
01:52:06,330 --> 01:52:04,630
which I could not even look at I I've

2409
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:06,340
seen a small snippet of it I don't even

2410
01:52:10,109 --> 01:52:08,770
want to deal with it but I was you know

2411
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:10,119
they wanted to turn the lights on

2412
01:52:15,330 --> 01:52:11,679
because it sounded like I was coughing

2413
01:52:18,689 --> 01:52:15,340
up blood and the creepiest pot for me

2414
01:52:20,069 --> 01:52:18,699
was after I was channeling and I went

2415
01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:20,079
through the whole process of feeling

2416
01:52:25,470 --> 01:52:23,320
like I had been murdered I was like a

2417
01:52:27,180 --> 01:52:25,480
you know a sack of potatoes falling down

2418
01:52:29,339 --> 01:52:27,190
on the floor but when they finally

2419
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:29,349
turned the lights on and I was able to

2420
01:52:34,620 --> 01:52:33,040
regain my composure I you know one was a

2421
01:52:37,290 --> 01:52:34,630
little taken aback because he looked up

2422
01:52:39,089 --> 01:52:37,300
at the wall and in that home the woman

2423
01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:39,099
had done a great job of putting all the

2424
01:52:45,870 --> 01:52:42,040
murder photos in there on the walls and

2425
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:45,880
the position that Abby was laying was

2426
01:52:51,899 --> 01:52:48,730
the exact same position I was in on the

2427
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:51,909
floor right below the picture and the

2428
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:53,770
you know in the fact that she was there

2429
01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:56,290
and you saw her her death in other words

2430
01:53:02,669 --> 01:52:58,810
right there not you she was killed in

2431
01:53:04,970 --> 01:53:02,679
her bed yes right and he was in the

2432
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:04,980
bedroom and he was killed on the couch

2433
01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:08,290
yes and then if your downstairs into

2434
01:53:13,950 --> 01:53:11,380
that living room they literally have the

2435
01:53:17,610 --> 01:53:13,960
exact green velvet couch right

2436
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:17,620
there I'm looking at did you did you sit

2437
01:53:23,459 --> 01:53:20,770
on the count yes oh man ok let's go back

2438
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:23,469
to the bedroom I'm looking at the

2439
01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:24,880
bedroom here and you're right they've

2440
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:27,400
got all the crime-scene photos of the

2441
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:30,400
dresser how creepy is that and so is

2442
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:33,040
that and that's the original that that's

2443
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:36,400
the same bed you know it probably is I

2444
01:53:41,310 --> 01:53:38,350
mean I know this woman has done a great

2445
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:41,320
job of recreating and if it wasn't um I

2446
01:53:45,330 --> 01:53:42,640
think she just you know might have

2447
01:53:47,190 --> 01:53:45,340
refurbished it to get it back to you

2448
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:47,200
know the state to be usable but also

2449
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:49,930
some of the original pieces right all

2450
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:51,610
right yeah I'm looking at the photos

2451
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:54,730
here that it reminds me of the bedroom

2452
01:53:59,880 --> 01:53:57,370
of what I just described to you were the

2453
01:54:01,680 --> 01:53:59,890
the door open right it's all it's in the

2454
01:54:04,979 --> 01:54:01,690
same way right all the antiques are

2455
01:54:07,709 --> 01:54:04,989
there right yeah okay but so back to the

2456
01:54:10,170 --> 01:54:07,719
bedroom what happened well you know we

2457
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,180
communicated with Abby we have the

2458
01:54:14,430 --> 01:54:12,400
videos and and really that's what

2459
01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:14,440
happened in that room right is going

2460
01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:16,150
through channeling her and feeling her

2461
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:18,310
death and that just was a you know Ron

2462
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:20,050
and I ended up tussling which is

2463
01:54:25,290 --> 01:54:23,010
sometimes happens because he tries to

2464
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:25,300
you know there are times when let's say

2465
01:54:30,959 --> 01:54:27,730
I'm flailing around and he's trying to

2466
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:30,969
get me keep me from getting hurt and so

2467
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:33,040
in that moment you know I think I kind

2468
01:54:39,570 --> 01:54:35,050
of kicked him somewhere where wasn't

2469
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:39,580
Pleasant but it wasn't intentional but

2470
01:54:44,490 --> 01:54:41,890
no it you know I think everybody there

2471
01:54:46,110 --> 01:54:44,500
was a little bit taken aback because

2472
01:54:47,790 --> 01:54:46,120
they weren't you know they were not

2473
01:54:50,220 --> 01:54:47,800
expecting to have that happen and they

2474
01:54:54,030 --> 01:54:50,230
they were swearing that they could hear

2475
01:54:55,890 --> 01:54:54,040
the liquid hit the floor so I don't know

2476
01:54:58,830 --> 01:54:55,900
what was going on at the time I was in

2477
01:55:01,740 --> 01:54:58,840
and out of it but it wasn't you know and

2478
01:55:05,459 --> 01:55:01,750
so many times today in fact we did a

2479
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:05,469
talk at one of the colleges and Ron said

2480
01:55:09,180 --> 01:55:07,150
to me um are we and I'm just gonna put a

2481
01:55:12,090 --> 01:55:09,190
couple of videos in there and I thought

2482
01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:12,100
what are you doing and I don't like

2483
01:55:17,850 --> 01:55:15,160
watching the videos Jimmy I can't I have

2484
01:55:22,290 --> 01:55:17,860
a very difficult time seeing myself

2485
01:55:23,820 --> 01:55:22,300
Channel yeah yeah what happened we've

2486
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:23,830
got about two minutes before the break

2487
01:55:27,330 --> 01:55:26,170
what happened anything happened down in

2488
01:55:30,570 --> 01:55:27,340
the living room where

2489
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:30,580
the father was killed well what happened

2490
01:55:38,130 --> 01:55:35,110
downstairs is Ron and I um I tell you I

2491
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:38,140
came close they as far as her recreation

2492
01:55:42,210 --> 01:55:40,780
she had a basket in the kitchen right

2493
01:55:44,730 --> 01:55:42,220
next to the living room where the father

2494
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:44,740
had been and there was an axe she put an

2495
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:45,970
axe in the basket

2496
01:55:50,580 --> 01:55:48,400
okay right so I'm standing there and I

2497
01:55:53,070 --> 01:55:50,590
start feeling this energy and Ron's

2498
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,080
looking at me and honest to god Jimmy if

2499
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:55,360
I had to walk out of the house because I

2500
01:55:59,850 --> 01:55:56,530
thought I was going to pick up the axe

2501
01:56:03,780 --> 01:55:59,860
and use it and it was as if I was I

2502
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:03,790
don't know if I was you know what you

2503
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:06,850
just say yeah I know well you know how I

2504
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:08,590
said you're feeling the energy of the

2505
01:56:13,620 --> 01:56:11,530
spirit that was there yeah and I I don't

2506
01:56:16,050 --> 01:56:13,630
know if it was Libby Borden that I was

2507
01:56:19,230 --> 01:56:16,060
picking up on but I seriously had the

2508
01:56:22,650 --> 01:56:19,240
urge to pick up the axe and use it on

2509
01:56:24,510 --> 01:56:22,660
Ron and I thought oh my god like I was

2510
01:56:26,250 --> 01:56:24,520
holding my hands in my pocket trying you

2511
01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:26,260
know and it was horrible because it was

2512
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:28,240
this like I never had that feeling I

2513
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:29,890
know I'm not someone who's going to go

2514
01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:31,690
murder somebody but I kid you not

2515
01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:35,350
that's what it felt like I'm just

2516
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,520
absorbing your words how do you how do

2517
01:56:47,970 --> 01:56:44,800
you deal with that I mean I'm sitting

2518
01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:47,980
here dealing with it as you tell me but

2519
01:56:55,770 --> 01:56:52,600
at that moment it's kind of like you

2520
01:56:57,090 --> 01:56:55,780
know I'm thinking like Jack Nicholson in

2521
01:57:00,090 --> 01:56:57,100
the shining right where he is just

2522
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:00,100
absolutely possessed he's no longer in

2523
01:57:05,730 --> 01:57:02,110
control of himself and that's the

2524
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:05,740
frightening part about this for you how

2525
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:08,530
do you how do you how did you you know

2526
01:57:15,150 --> 01:57:12,000
keep control what do you do you know I

2527
01:57:17,340 --> 01:57:15,160
try to I really have not been in that

2528
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,350
situation other than you know sometimes

2529
01:57:22,170 --> 01:57:19,840
in certain situations if the spirit is

2530
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:22,180
angry with Ron let's say first you know

2531
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:23,920
and if you know Ron and people who have

2532
01:57:29,130 --> 01:57:27,250
heard Ron he can get really you know he

2533
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:29,140
does it jokingly or he tries to get

2534
01:57:33,450 --> 01:57:31,210
communication going but there's times

2535
01:57:34,860 --> 01:57:33,460
where I just want to strike them and I'm

2536
01:57:36,570 --> 01:57:34,870
thinking oh my goodness like it's the

2537
01:57:39,660 --> 01:57:36,580
Spirit is coming through and there's

2538
01:57:40,589 --> 01:57:39,670
times I've dislocated his finger or he

2539
01:57:42,569 --> 01:57:40,599
had open answer

2540
01:57:44,189 --> 01:57:42,579
we were wrestling on the ground and he

2541
01:57:46,409 --> 01:57:44,199
ended up getting hurt and I would never

2542
01:57:49,799 --> 01:57:46,419
myself do that to hurt him it just

2543
01:57:52,139 --> 01:57:49,809
happens right and as far as control I'll

2544
01:57:54,239 --> 01:57:52,149
try to push the spirit out or I will

2545
01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:54,249
physically walk backwards like trying to

2546
01:58:00,239 --> 01:57:57,129
get away from him and Ron knows this the

2547
01:58:02,759 --> 01:58:00,249
telltale signs to you know that maybe

2548
01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:02,769
just back off you know and not come too

2549
01:58:10,859 --> 01:58:06,639
close do you think like you know it's a

2550
01:58:13,529 --> 01:58:10,869
bed in bed and breakfast now is is it a

2551
01:58:15,540 --> 01:58:13,539
good idea to stay there it's there a lot

2552
01:58:18,389 --> 01:58:15,550
of bad experiences or people just there

2553
01:58:19,919 --> 01:58:18,399
for the thrill you know it used to I

2554
01:58:21,679 --> 01:58:19,929
don't even know if it still is

2555
01:58:24,299 --> 01:58:21,689
I think she's let different

2556
01:58:26,009 --> 01:58:24,309
investigative teams stay there but it

2557
01:58:30,869 --> 01:58:26,019
used to be a bed and breakfast I don't

2558
01:58:32,429 --> 01:58:30,879
think it is anymore but you know I think

2559
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:32,439
that a lot of people have had different

2560
01:58:36,750 --> 01:58:35,050
experiences you know like they would

2561
01:58:38,250 --> 01:58:36,760
have covers and things moved off their

2562
01:58:40,589 --> 01:58:38,260
legs in the bed or the rock and cheers

2563
01:58:42,689 --> 01:58:40,599
we'd be moving objects would be moving

2564
01:58:45,119 --> 01:58:42,699
inside they'd hear voices

2565
01:58:47,939 --> 01:58:45,129
you know the coming from the rafters in

2566
01:58:50,250 --> 01:58:47,949
the certain rooms doors would open and

2567
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:50,260
close by themselves you know she even

2568
01:58:55,020 --> 01:58:52,719
had the same thing with you know a phone

2569
01:58:57,529 --> 01:58:55,030
call coming in and it was all sixes you

2570
01:59:00,179 --> 01:58:57,539
know she's she's had many different

2571
01:59:03,270 --> 01:59:00,189
really strange events that have occurred

2572
01:59:06,449 --> 01:59:03,280
in that house it's a it's it's bigger

2573
01:59:08,279 --> 01:59:06,459
than I remembered you know I always

2574
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:08,289
picture the front of the house but no it

2575
01:59:11,879 --> 01:59:10,030
is actually a pretty good size

2576
01:59:13,500 --> 01:59:11,889
all right let's take a break right here

2577
01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:13,510
our guest tonight Maureen wood we're

2578
01:59:19,409 --> 01:59:16,510
talking ghost stories from her new book

2579
01:59:20,889 --> 01:59:19,419
mower ghost Chronicles I'm your host

2580
01:59:22,179 --> 01:59:20,899
Jimmy Church

2581
01:59:23,070 --> 01:59:22,189
we'll be back right after this short

2582
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:23,080
break stay with us

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calm

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did you know that when you're on the

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road with limited data or Wi-Fi

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minute of fade to black by just calling

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two no smart phone app or internet

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needed it saves your data plan and no

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extra cost if you have unlimited minutes

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just call six oh five five six two four

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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you wanna know a secret I love ponies I

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really love ponies I'm serious I

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couldn't stay stable without pony mr.

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Brooks life fades apart because you've

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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radio network and kgr a the global radio

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black on the hill

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shimmy Church night two of our Halloween

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week Maureen wood is here we're talking

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ghost stories from her new book with Ron

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Kolok I'm holding it up to the camera

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more ghost chronicles and Maureen do you

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think that some of these locations are

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just over investigated you know I do

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sometimes right and I think that

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sometimes after you have it investigated

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you have a lot more spirits there than

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where before whether someone has brought

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some in whether the intention of them

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being there you might have you know have

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almost as if it's got a life of its own

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right you know and zak bagans was just

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there and and you know it made some

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things angry will teach the next true

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that comes in here yeah so yeah you have

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often thought about that and but this

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book these are locations that I haven't

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heard about before like the New London

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ledge lighthouse and and I again I have

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that story I'll hold it up I have that

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one earmarked too as well what happened

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there tell us about it well the New

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London ledge lighthouse and that was

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really was very interesting right

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because we went out into to go dropped

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out from a boat now it actually won an

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Emmy for the American Builder show so

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what happened is originally I don't know

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if you're familiar with the American

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Builder shows on in like 2009 2008 or

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something like that and what it was was

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Jimmy like a construction worker and you

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know he wanted to go out and have a

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Halloween experience and he wanted to be

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you know go out with an investigative

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team out and be dropped off on an island

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or a lighthouse overnight and see what

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if there's anything was going to happen

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you know so it was like scared Jimmy

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that's pretty much what it was so we all

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went together they picked the New London

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ledge lighthouse to go to and I in

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Connecticut and so we went to this

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lighthouse

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and you know we get there and it's very

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ominous anyway right so no if you see a

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picture of it you look at it and it is

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it's this little house like right out in

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obviously in the ocean right so we get

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dropped off the night set starts off

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pretty you know pretty blasé I'd say hey

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you know we're walking around we go in

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the basement we think we got a little

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bit of communication but not too much

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and what happened is it started going a

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little bit darker and it gets a little

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bit later one of the EVP specialists at

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the time Karen Massey went out with

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Jimmy and they went out to the outside

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of the lighthouse let me just jump in

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here this is this place is haunted

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I mean you know it you know it pulling

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up in the okay so I'm gonna describe

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this to everybody this is sitting out in

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the middle of the water by itself it's

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not on land and it's surrounded by

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concrete and it's a it's a three-story

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house painted red of all things and then

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with a little lighthouse on the top of

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it it's not your typical lighthouse that

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you see on you know that that we're all

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familiar with this thing is is crazy

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I mean that's you know going there that

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it's right right well absolutely and you

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know the legend you know there was it

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was built in the 1900s early 1900s right

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so the legend was that the wife of Ernie

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the lighthouse keeper had run off with

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the captain of Block Island Ferry and

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because he was in so distraught over it

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you know the the rumor was Ernie jumped

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from the roof of the lighthouse and died

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now we didn't come across Ernie but I

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will say that we ended up doing a seance

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upstairs in I think well like the third

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bit on the third floor in the bedroom on

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the right-hand side right so we were

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02:08:43,210 --> 02:08:41,510
there with Jimmy we had EVP specialists

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we had a Ouija board

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that Ron had brought with him

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yeah oh my god let me tell you so they

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02:08:55,540 --> 02:08:52,580
had base camp set up and we had you know

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they had the cameras going and usually

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when you as you know when you have

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02:09:01,450 --> 02:08:58,880
paranormal activity and the spirit

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02:09:04,060 --> 02:09:01,460
starts coming in stronger what happens

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right it affects the the broadcast or it

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affects the you know television monitors

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and everything's static right so you

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02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:11,150
start getting that static comes in and

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you're not getting any clear you know

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clear viewing so we didn't know what at

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02:09:20,620 --> 02:09:18,800
the time but as we were communicating we

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02:09:22,500 --> 02:09:20,630
were actually getting EVP on their

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02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:22,510
equipment that they set up for base camp

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and that the you know the television

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crew had set up because they found this

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later when they went back and reviewed

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all the the recordings so what we did

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get though while we're sitting there and

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we were using the Ouija board was it

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seemed like a spirit of a woman came

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through first and she wanted to know why

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we were there and she was trying to

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figure out what was going on and you

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know since you you investigate Jimmy you

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02:09:54,430 --> 02:09:52,310
know this other spirit came in and it

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was a man spirit and he was a little bit

2819
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more adamant that he wanted to come

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through and he was he was angry and he

2821
02:10:03,460 --> 02:10:01,220
did say no I didn't know anything at the

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02:10:05,770 --> 02:10:03,470
time about any the rumor of somebody

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jumping off the top of the lighthouse

2824
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but he did say in other words that he

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was a worker there that had been sitting

2826
02:10:15,460 --> 02:10:13,040
up on the top of the lighthouse it got

2827
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locked out and someone locked him out

2828
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and he fell to his death now there was

2829
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no there's been no reports if he did

2830
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research there's no lighthouse keeper

2831
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Ernie and they said you know there's no

2832
02:10:29,470 --> 02:10:28,040
report of somebody that had died coming

2833
02:10:31,420 --> 02:10:29,480
off the lighthouse but in that time

2834
02:10:32,890 --> 02:10:31,430
period if it was a worker it may not

2835
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have been talked about it might have

2836
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:35,690
been you know hidden it wasn't something

2837
02:10:40,030 --> 02:10:36,890
that they were going to you know make a

2838
02:10:45,070 --> 02:10:40,040
big deal out of right right right right

2839
02:10:47,860 --> 02:10:45,080
so but for me you know that night was it

2840
02:10:49,300 --> 02:10:47,870
was hard to deal with so let me explain

2841
02:10:52,270 --> 02:10:49,310
it this way I told you already I don't

2842
02:10:55,330 --> 02:10:52,280
like seeing myself Channel right so this

2843
02:10:57,640 --> 02:10:55,340
is on major TV we have this this video

2844
02:10:59,649 --> 02:10:57,650
and so now I'm given a CD of it right

2845
02:11:02,169 --> 02:10:59,659
and my mother

2846
02:11:03,939 --> 02:11:02,179
who was at the time she when she was

2847
02:11:06,100 --> 02:11:03,949
alive was very supportive she wanted to

2848
02:11:07,660 --> 02:11:06,110
see this video while I didn't want to

2849
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:07,670
show her cuz I knew it would look

2850
02:11:11,140 --> 02:11:09,650
horrific of me like I it would be

2851
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:11,150
terrifying it's terrifying for me I

2852
02:11:15,700 --> 02:11:13,760
didn't want her to see that and so I was

2853
02:11:17,110 --> 02:11:15,710
hiding the video and then Ron said to me

2854
02:11:20,050 --> 02:11:17,120
more me and it's been months didn't you

2855
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:20,060
watch that yet I'm like no he's like why

2856
02:11:23,649 --> 02:11:21,440
don't you just watch it well sure enough

2857
02:11:27,220 --> 02:11:23,659
nobody's home one day I go to watch it

2858
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:27,230
my mother stops in and I'm like oh so

2859
02:11:30,490 --> 02:11:28,610
she walks and she was like oh I'm so

2860
02:11:33,459 --> 02:11:30,500
excited we can watch it together I'm

2861
02:11:35,890 --> 02:11:33,469
like yay right so she sits down beside

2862
02:11:39,189 --> 02:11:35,900
me and that pot came on that I was

2863
02:11:41,860 --> 02:11:39,199
channeling that spirit and again it

2864
02:11:43,209 --> 02:11:41,870
wasn't a pretty sight and my mother just

2865
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:43,219
looked at me she didn't even couldn't

2866
02:11:46,899 --> 02:11:44,960
even look at me at that time she put her

2867
02:11:48,820 --> 02:11:46,909
hand on my thigh and she squeezed it and

2868
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:48,830
I could see her stiffen like her whole

2869
02:11:53,250 --> 02:11:51,170
body demeanor changed and she looked at

2870
02:11:56,260 --> 02:11:53,260
me and she just said I'm afraid for you

2871
02:11:58,090 --> 02:11:56,270
and I just felt so bad you know and I

2872
02:11:58,660 --> 02:11:58,100
said you know I'm fine mom really I'm

2873
02:12:01,149 --> 02:11:58,670
okay

2874
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:01,159
and she's like that's horrible Marvin

2875
02:12:06,370 --> 02:12:03,650
that's horrible I'm like I know I know

2876
02:12:09,220 --> 02:12:06,380
but you know Jimmy the stuff that

2877
02:12:11,020 --> 02:12:09,230
happened not just that night when we

2878
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:11,030
investigated but you know how you say

2879
02:12:14,770 --> 02:12:13,520
does this happen do you bring spirits

2880
02:12:17,770 --> 02:12:14,780
like you say you bring spirits home

2881
02:12:20,830 --> 02:12:17,780
right the crew that had investigated

2882
02:12:23,050 --> 02:12:20,840
took all their tapes and their

2883
02:12:24,729 --> 02:12:23,060
information and recordings back to the

2884
02:12:26,350 --> 02:12:24,739
studio as they would have to cut the

2885
02:12:30,430 --> 02:12:26,360
clips and make it work and put it

2886
02:12:32,470 --> 02:12:30,440
together well I guess something happened

2887
02:12:34,919 --> 02:12:32,480
at the studio every time they were

2888
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:34,929
trying to run those pieces of that night

2889
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:37,730
the lights went out the generator had a

2890
02:12:42,729 --> 02:12:40,639
problem there was like issues at the

2891
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:42,739
station so much so that the people

2892
02:12:47,830 --> 02:12:45,110
refused to go inside to the studio when

2893
02:12:50,169 --> 02:12:47,840
they were running it they didn't want it

2894
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:50,179
and then when they played this people

2895
02:12:54,910 --> 02:12:52,610
were calling in from their home saying

2896
02:12:56,260 --> 02:12:54,920
oh my god this is terrifying I can't

2897
02:12:57,850 --> 02:12:56,270
believe that you showed this on TV

2898
02:13:02,350 --> 02:12:57,860
when's the next time you're going to do

2899
02:13:05,020 --> 02:13:02,360
it again I just posted pictures of it

2900
02:13:08,740 --> 02:13:05,030
and it's it's funny the the first

2901
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:08,750
reaction was oh sweet baby Jesus that

2902
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:11,850
place is on it and

2903
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:14,970
you know and you look at it what was it

2904
02:13:20,930 --> 02:13:17,010
like when you pull up you know to the

2905
02:13:27,410 --> 02:13:20,940
boat and and step on to this structure I

2906
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:27,420
mean that I mean it just looks I mean

2907
02:13:32,540 --> 02:13:30,290
what could go wrong

2908
02:13:34,460 --> 02:13:32,550
overnight and that's the thing you know

2909
02:13:37,490 --> 02:13:34,470
the boats gone it's not like you have a

2910
02:13:40,130 --> 02:13:37,500
boat no you can't right no you can't run

2911
02:13:42,350 --> 02:13:40,140
right nowhere to go and so at night when

2912
02:13:44,990 --> 02:13:42,360
it got really crazy I'm thinking now

2913
02:13:45,470 --> 02:13:45,000
where do I go right like I have nowhere

2914
02:13:47,060 --> 02:13:45,480
to go

2915
02:13:49,010 --> 02:13:47,070
it's not like I and I could go outside

2916
02:13:51,410 --> 02:13:49,020
if I wanted but that didn't make me feel

2917
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:51,420
any better because as I was saying

2918
02:13:56,300 --> 02:13:54,000
before like Karen the EVP specialists

2919
02:13:59,600 --> 02:13:56,310
went with Jimmy outside and there had

2920
02:14:01,820 --> 02:13:59,610
been a story that a boat and you know in

2921
02:14:04,430 --> 02:14:01,830
in the history of the lighthouse a bowed

2922
02:14:07,730 --> 02:14:04,440
head smashed up against the lighthouse

2923
02:14:09,350 --> 02:14:07,740
and broken up and they had the woman had

2924
02:14:11,660 --> 02:14:09,360
passed away and I guess she was brought

2925
02:14:14,990 --> 02:14:11,670
up up on top of with a the cement

2926
02:14:16,820 --> 02:14:15,000
structure is and you know they don't you

2927
02:14:18,380 --> 02:14:16,830
know they believe that protect she might

2928
02:14:20,900 --> 02:14:18,390
be the spirit that is haunting that

2929
02:14:23,570 --> 02:14:20,910
location as well well Karen had gotten

2930
02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:23,580
an EVP that when you play it it's just

2931
02:14:30,020 --> 02:14:26,400
you hear her this this haunting sound

2932
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:30,030
saying I'm cold and that's what you hear

2933
02:14:35,450 --> 02:14:32,880
is the I'm cold and it's like it just

2934
02:14:38,990 --> 02:14:35,460
you know it really is heart-wrenching to

2935
02:14:41,540 --> 02:14:39,000
hear that and you know and guess what

2936
02:14:43,700 --> 02:14:41,550
with Jimmy like so now Brian we had the

2937
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:43,710
radio show at the time right we're on

2938
02:14:49,640 --> 02:14:46,800
this local station wcm where we're after

2939
02:14:52,100 --> 02:14:49,650
this is all done you know Jimmy comes on

2940
02:14:54,260 --> 02:14:52,110
the radio show with another person that

2941
02:14:57,650 --> 02:14:54,270
was on the investigation Ron and I are

2942
02:15:00,560 --> 02:14:57,660
talking to him and guess what happens as

2943
02:15:02,750 --> 02:15:00,570
we're talking about it we're asking

2944
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,760
Jimmy his thoughts and by now Jimmy was

2945
02:15:06,110 --> 02:15:04,320
like oh my god like he didn't want to

2946
02:15:08,270 --> 02:15:06,120
feel like he wasn't a big man right he

2947
02:15:11,060 --> 02:15:08,280
wanted us to say he was you know I was

2948
02:15:12,830 --> 02:15:11,070
strong I wasn't nervous and I said well

2949
02:15:14,660 --> 02:15:12,840
that's fine you know that's okay and

2950
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:14,670
he's like well I you guys must have done

2951
02:15:18,170 --> 02:15:15,810
something I don't know if I believe in

2952
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:18,180
it and all of a sudden in the radio

2953
02:15:22,490 --> 02:15:20,370
station it was like a foghorn went off

2954
02:15:25,460 --> 02:15:22,500
like like you had a foghorn for the

2955
02:15:27,410 --> 02:15:25,470
lighthouse just bleared in the radio

2956
02:15:29,330 --> 02:15:27,420
stationed the guy who was doing the

2957
02:15:30,770 --> 02:15:29,340
electronics the boys he's like all

2958
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:30,780
confused like where did that come from

2959
02:15:35,570 --> 02:15:33,690
and Jimmy and the person on the phone

2960
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:35,580
thought that we set it up and that we

2961
02:15:40,730 --> 02:15:38,850
put that foghorn on as a part of an

2962
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:40,740
effect which we don't even know where it

2963
02:15:44,540 --> 02:15:41,370
came from

2964
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:44,550
what happened to you or you step off the

2965
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:48,330
boat and you you you climb up you've got

2966
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:50,880
to go upstairs and stuff and you and you

2967
02:15:56,810 --> 02:15:53,850
start to what do I mean what happened I

2968
02:16:00,680 --> 02:15:56,820
mean things just must have gone crazy

2969
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:00,690
there it take us through that yeah it's

2970
02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:02,610
you know you you go up the stairs and

2971
02:16:05,990 --> 02:16:04,320
you know it was very ominous right so

2972
02:16:07,850 --> 02:16:06,000
you're walking up the stairs it's now

2973
02:16:09,740 --> 02:16:07,860
pitch-black at night everybody's behind

2974
02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:09,750
you you got the you know the television

2975
02:16:16,700 --> 02:16:12,960
crews going there and as we're walking

2976
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,710
into this room you know it's almost as

2977
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:18,480
if someone sitting in the corner you

2978
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:20,370
know like just waiting you could feel

2979
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:22,730
like you're being watched the whole time

2980
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:25,410
you know and we had everybody doing the

2981
02:16:31,490 --> 02:16:28,530
EVPs and we're going around and you know

2982
02:16:33,140 --> 02:16:31,500
for a while you know we thought oh well

2983
02:16:34,490 --> 02:16:33,150
let's check out the rest of the place

2984
02:16:36,110 --> 02:16:34,500
you know we're going to go around the

2985
02:16:38,210 --> 02:16:36,120
rest of the building so we we walked

2986
02:16:40,340 --> 02:16:38,220
away for a moment from that room where

2987
02:16:42,620 --> 02:16:40,350
we had done the Ouija board and we went

2988
02:16:46,130 --> 02:16:42,630
to where you'd go up to the top of the

2989
02:16:48,650 --> 02:16:46,140
lighthouse and we walked up these smalls

2990
02:16:51,620 --> 02:16:48,660
you know circular stairs and at one

2991
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:51,630
point you know we had a stop because the

2992
02:16:56,990 --> 02:16:54,000
energy got so strong and it almost is as

2993
02:16:59,480 --> 02:16:57,000
if I was losing my balance like I

2994
02:17:00,980 --> 02:16:59,490
couldn't stay standing straight up like

2995
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:00,990
I thought I was gonna fall down the

2996
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:03,450
stairs I thought I was gonna fall out of

2997
02:17:06,620 --> 02:17:05,040
something and Ron was getting a little

2998
02:17:08,690 --> 02:17:06,630
nervous because it had like a little

2999
02:17:11,630 --> 02:17:08,700
opening like a hatch in a little hatch

3000
02:17:13,390 --> 02:17:11,640
door right and so you know Jimmy's

3001
02:17:16,130 --> 02:17:13,400
looking at me you know he was with us

3002
02:17:17,690 --> 02:17:16,140
Ron was getting extremely nervous and I

3003
02:17:20,060 --> 02:17:17,700
was getting very uncomfortable because

3004
02:17:21,980 --> 02:17:20,070
I'm thinking you know dear God it's the

3005
02:17:24,290 --> 02:17:21,990
beginning of the night you know we

3006
02:17:26,330 --> 02:17:24,300
hadn't even gotten into doing the Ouija

3007
02:17:28,130 --> 02:17:26,340
board we haven't even gotten into doing

3008
02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:28,140
any heavy communication in fact the

3009
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:29,730
lights was still like it was still light

3010
02:17:35,450 --> 02:17:31,920
oh it was still you know the Sun was

3011
02:17:38,990 --> 02:17:35,460
just setting and I thought oh my god I'm

3012
02:17:41,060 --> 02:17:39,000
in for a long night you know and so

3013
02:17:43,250 --> 02:17:41,070
that to me is where it really you know

3014
02:17:45,770 --> 02:17:43,260
escalated that night when we got into

3015
02:17:51,459 --> 02:17:45,780
that room and Ron pulled out the Ouija

3016
02:17:54,049 --> 02:17:51,469
board so okay there's got to be a crazy

3017
02:17:57,290 --> 02:17:54,059
Ouija board situation what happened

3018
02:17:59,209 --> 02:17:57,300
there um well you know we he sets the

3019
02:18:01,070 --> 02:17:59,219
weeds Ouija board up and you know we're

3020
02:18:02,750 --> 02:18:01,080
just asking and that was you know I

3021
02:18:04,339 --> 02:18:02,760
actually saw it today kind of for the

3022
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:04,349
first time watching the little snippet

3023
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:07,110
of the video as we were communicating

3024
02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:09,450
with this spirit I'm over there saying

3025
02:18:13,820 --> 02:18:11,760
you know he's telling us to go he's

3026
02:18:16,940 --> 02:18:13,830
telling us to go we have to he wants us

3027
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:16,950
out of here he wants us to leave and at

3028
02:18:21,140 --> 02:18:19,050
the same time you know later when they

3029
02:18:24,049 --> 02:18:21,150
dubbed it they said you could see that

3030
02:18:26,839 --> 02:18:24,059
the electronics were going fuzzy on the

3031
02:18:30,049 --> 02:18:26,849
cameras and it actually says unbeknownst

3032
02:18:34,310 --> 02:18:30,059
to the investigators the words that she

3033
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:34,320
was saying are repeated in the EVP so

3034
02:18:39,140 --> 02:18:36,000
you could hear in the background it was

3035
02:18:41,780 --> 02:18:39,150
like go go and you know that was really

3036
02:18:45,379 --> 02:18:41,790
the beginning of communicating with that

3037
02:18:47,720 --> 02:18:45,389
spirit you know it what happened is I

3038
02:18:49,580 --> 02:18:47,730
was holding Jimmy's hand in Ron's hand

3039
02:18:51,830 --> 02:18:49,590
and I didn't even know how hard I was

3040
02:18:54,049 --> 02:18:51,840
holding their hands as you know for us

3041
02:18:55,370 --> 02:18:54,059
we did the Ouija board then we decided

3042
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:55,380
to stop with the Ouija board because we

3043
02:19:00,440 --> 02:18:57,090
already had communication so I had their

3044
02:19:03,259 --> 02:19:00,450
hands held and I don't remember a lot

3045
02:19:06,379 --> 02:19:03,269
after that what happened down but I

3046
02:19:08,690 --> 02:19:06,389
looked at the video today and it was

3047
02:19:10,640 --> 02:19:08,700
terrifying because you know Jimmy's

3048
02:19:12,680 --> 02:19:10,650
fingers were purple his hands were

3049
02:19:15,350 --> 02:19:12,690
probably he said I have not he says my

3050
02:19:17,419 --> 02:19:15,360
hands were tingling that it was crazy

3051
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:17,429
and someone's like your hands are blue

3052
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:20,250
you know when Ron was saying the same

3053
02:19:25,070 --> 02:19:22,800
thing you know that you know he couldn't

3054
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:25,080
believe that how strong the energy was

3055
02:19:29,450 --> 02:19:27,450
at that time and how all of us just like

3056
02:19:32,180 --> 02:19:29,460
I started pushing back and trying to get

3057
02:19:33,980 --> 02:19:32,190
away I ended up in the recess of the

3058
02:19:36,169 --> 02:19:33,990
attic almost it's kind of like an attic

3059
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:36,179
room and I was in the back of it like I

3060
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:37,530
was I was just trying to get away from

3061
02:19:42,430 --> 02:19:40,800
everybody so it was a I don't know it

3062
02:19:45,169 --> 02:19:42,440
just was one of the harder

3063
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:45,179
investigations that we had done does

3064
02:19:50,360 --> 02:19:48,450
anybody live there now I don't believe

3065
02:19:51,970 --> 02:19:50,370
anybody in fact I don't think many

3066
02:19:55,421 --> 02:19:51,980
lighthouses am and at this

3067
02:19:58,541 --> 02:19:55,431
right with is there furniture or

3068
02:20:00,881 --> 02:19:58,551
anything like that there is there's

3069
02:20:03,011 --> 02:20:00,891
empty rooms you know there's no really

3070
02:20:05,831 --> 02:20:03,021
furniture but down in the first floor

3071
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:05,841
there were like almost pews that you

3072
02:20:10,661 --> 02:20:08,330
would find you know benches that were

3073
02:20:12,310 --> 02:20:10,671
these big in fact I remember those

3074
02:20:14,621 --> 02:20:12,320
because during the night when we're

3075
02:20:17,261 --> 02:20:14,631
trying to get you know just close our

3076
02:20:18,730 --> 02:20:17,271
eyes for five minutes I'd go down in

3077
02:20:22,751 --> 02:20:18,740
that room and that seemed to be the one

3078
02:20:26,020 --> 02:20:22,761
room that was not as heavy the energy

3079
02:20:27,940 --> 02:20:26,030
wasn't as you know like reaching out

3080
02:20:29,890 --> 02:20:27,950
trying to grab you it was a little bit

3081
02:20:32,980 --> 02:20:29,900
less intense so it was one of the places

3082
02:20:36,881 --> 02:20:32,990
I could go to get some rest you know who

3083
02:20:44,081 --> 02:20:36,891
ever lived there it was you're bound to

3084
02:20:47,140 --> 02:20:44,091
go crazy no no no no no would want to be

3085
02:20:51,841 --> 02:20:47,150
out there by themselves you know just a

3086
02:20:55,051 --> 02:20:51,851
bad idea yeah just a bad idea have you

3087
02:20:59,020 --> 02:20:55,061
have you ever seen a ghost

3088
02:21:00,841 --> 02:20:59,030
hi every year seen a ghost I've swum

3089
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:00,851
when I was young I saw them all the time

3090
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:04,490
and now when I see them I see them more

3091
02:21:09,730 --> 02:21:07,040
as I it's almost like I glimpse them you

3092
02:21:12,390 --> 02:21:09,740
know I get a quick snapshot of what I

3093
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:12,400
see or it seems like they almost shimmer

3094
02:21:17,711 --> 02:21:15,290
but I when I was younger I could see

3095
02:21:19,961 --> 02:21:17,721
them as if I was looking at someone else

3096
02:21:23,740 --> 02:21:19,971
you know that was physical standing in

3097
02:21:26,110 --> 02:21:23,750
front of me what what about Ron and when

3098
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:26,120
you guys are out doing you know because

3099
02:21:33,761 --> 02:21:29,690
he's the skeptic has has he ever seen

3100
02:21:35,621 --> 02:21:33,771
anything he has actually and you know he

3101
02:21:38,381 --> 02:21:35,631
started off a real skeptic

3102
02:21:43,810 --> 02:21:38,391
and even though he he tries to keep you

3103
02:21:45,251 --> 02:21:43,820
know he is skeptic but not as skeptic as

3104
02:21:48,161 --> 02:21:45,261
he was when he first started if that

3105
02:21:51,011 --> 02:21:48,171
makes sense because over the years all

3106
02:21:52,810 --> 02:21:51,021
the you know the information is gathered

3107
02:21:54,911 --> 02:21:52,820
and you know it gives you those aha

3108
02:21:57,940 --> 02:21:54,921
moments and you know he'll still try to

3109
02:22:00,400 --> 02:21:57,950
remain scientific but yet in and in fact

3110
02:22:02,381 --> 02:22:00,410
I think he even sent said today that you

3111
02:22:04,030 --> 02:22:02,391
know he's the time he has seen a spirit

3112
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:04,040
he actually saw it when we weren't

3113
02:22:07,501 --> 02:22:05,410
investigating

3114
02:22:09,570 --> 02:22:07,511
you know he saw it at a different time

3115
02:22:11,791 --> 02:22:09,580
that he saw a spirit and he thought that

3116
02:22:13,381 --> 02:22:11,801
you know he was doing a at the

3117
02:22:15,870 --> 02:22:13,391
Portsmouth lighthouse he was actually

3118
02:22:18,570 --> 02:22:15,880
doing a night where he brought people in

3119
02:22:20,850 --> 02:22:18,580
to do a ghost tour and while he was

3120
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:20,860
standing there and then that location

3121
02:22:24,810 --> 02:22:22,690
they always would see a woman walking on

3122
02:22:26,341 --> 02:22:24,820
the walls right around the the

3123
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:26,351
lighthouse in fact the coastguard would

3124
02:22:29,881 --> 02:22:28,090
always report seeing this woman and then

3125
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:29,891
to go see her on the monitors and then

3126
02:22:34,381 --> 02:22:31,330
they'd go run out to see who was out on

3127
02:22:36,421 --> 02:22:34,391
the walls and nobody would be there so

3128
02:22:38,461 --> 02:22:36,431
this one night he was doing this tour

3129
02:22:39,751 --> 02:22:38,471
and when he's standing inside and he's

3130
02:22:41,551 --> 02:22:39,761
talking you know he didn't want to

3131
02:22:42,900 --> 02:22:41,561
repeat himself so he saw somebody like

3132
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:42,910
they were walking and there was windows

3133
02:22:45,810 --> 02:22:44,230
and he's looking like waiting for the

3134
02:22:47,580 --> 02:22:45,820
person to come and the woman that was

3135
02:22:49,890 --> 02:22:47,590
standing there he was waiting for her to

3136
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:49,900
come around and go to the door and so

3137
02:22:52,530 --> 02:22:51,040
he's waiting and waiting he's like

3138
02:22:53,881 --> 02:22:52,540
what's taking her so long so he goes

3139
02:22:56,280 --> 02:22:53,891
could you just go ask that woman right

3140
02:22:59,520 --> 02:22:56,290
there to come in and they went out and

3141
02:23:00,961 --> 02:22:59,530
said there's nobody there so you know he

3142
02:23:03,660 --> 02:23:00,971
actually was a little dumbfounded

3143
02:23:05,490 --> 02:23:03,670
because he thought wow like he he saw

3144
02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:05,500
her and so much so that he was going to

3145
02:23:09,511 --> 02:23:06,790
wait to start because he didn't want to

3146
02:23:12,961 --> 02:23:09,521
speak twice for nothing but it turned

3147
02:23:16,470 --> 02:23:12,971
out there was no one the the other thing

3148
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:16,480
that that that freaks me out and it and

3149
02:23:22,470 --> 02:23:19,690
it's not away before Annabelle or

3150
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:22,480
anything like that but you know it's

3151
02:23:30,421 --> 02:23:25,570
dolls and and things that that get

3152
02:23:35,390 --> 02:23:30,431
attached to these what's going on there

3153
02:23:39,570 --> 02:23:35,400
and have you done you know a research

3154
02:23:43,740 --> 02:23:39,580
situation with with a spirit that has

3155
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:43,750
attached to to a doll you know we've had

3156
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:46,960
we went to this Sprague mansion to do a

3157
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:49,450
three-part series like a an

3158
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:51,610
investigation in a radio show and it was

3159
02:23:56,421 --> 02:23:54,490
Australia and England were all doing

3160
02:23:59,700 --> 02:23:56,431
this live broadcast right for Halloween

3161
02:24:02,310 --> 02:23:59,710
and it wasn't necessarily it was just

3162
02:24:04,890 --> 02:24:02,320
creepy for this that there was one room

3163
02:24:07,711 --> 02:24:04,900
and as you say dolls right the room was

3164
02:24:10,650 --> 02:24:07,721
filled with these old creepy dolls that

3165
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:10,660
were just sitting in the room and one of

3166
02:24:16,740 --> 02:24:13,090
the investigators thought that they saw

3167
02:24:18,740 --> 02:24:16,750
the doll move and he but but again he's

3168
02:24:20,780 --> 02:24:18,750
terrified of dolls right so

3169
02:24:23,301 --> 02:24:20,790
we were trying to see if we can gather

3170
02:24:25,610 --> 02:24:23,311
any information if it actually did move

3171
02:24:28,940 --> 02:24:25,620
but we can't validate whether it did or

3172
02:24:32,301 --> 02:24:28,950
didn't but again I haven't had it just

3173
02:24:34,881 --> 02:24:32,311
with the doll I will say though that we

3174
02:24:37,461 --> 02:24:34,891
we did have a situation that have you

3175
02:24:39,770 --> 02:24:37,471
ever heard of the Dybbuk box yes and I

3176
02:24:43,011 --> 02:24:39,780
was just gonna bring that up that's you

3177
02:24:45,381 --> 02:24:43,021
know things getting attached you know

3178
02:24:48,291 --> 02:24:45,391
and and you remove these objects like

3179
02:24:50,961 --> 02:24:48,301
the Dybbuk box from the house and and

3180
02:24:55,341 --> 02:24:50,971
things clean up but whoever's got it now

3181
02:24:58,631 --> 02:24:55,351
they have the issues exactly and you

3182
02:25:01,970 --> 02:24:58,641
know I could get into some of the

3183
02:25:04,730 --> 02:25:01,980
terrifying details of that but the the

3184
02:25:06,890 --> 02:25:04,740
Dybbuk box I actually had seen it

3185
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:06,900
originally on I think it was eBay or

3186
02:25:11,331 --> 02:25:09,210
something like that when somebody was

3187
02:25:14,541 --> 02:25:11,341
talking about it so being that we have

3188
02:25:16,430 --> 02:25:14,551
the paranormal investigative team I put

3189
02:25:18,200 --> 02:25:16,440
a sent an email out to the person who

3190
02:25:20,690 --> 02:25:18,210
had the Dybbuk box and he was actually

3191
02:25:23,301 --> 02:25:20,700
had it bound and tied up in this museum

3192
02:25:25,011 --> 02:25:23,311
place that he worked at right but the

3193
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:25,021
whole history of it was written up on

3194
02:25:30,711 --> 02:25:29,040
eBay so I called this man and you know

3195
02:25:33,261 --> 02:25:30,721
he talked to me about it now I didn't

3196
02:25:34,490 --> 02:25:33,271
know a lot of the whole every part of

3197
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:34,500
the history about it and things that had

3198
02:25:38,211 --> 02:25:36,240
happened until he started talking to me

3199
02:25:40,911 --> 02:25:38,221
so I was just really trying to take it

3200
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:40,921
to help him you know like he was at home

3201
02:25:43,911 --> 02:25:42,330
and he was saying you know all these

3202
02:25:45,890 --> 02:25:43,921
things were happening so I said you know

3203
02:25:47,631 --> 02:25:45,900
okay go to your you know with your

3204
02:25:49,400 --> 02:25:47,641
computer you could try holy water you

3205
02:25:52,251 --> 02:25:49,410
could try doing blessings you know you

3206
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:52,261
can try doing all this stuff and as I'm

3207
02:25:56,780 --> 02:25:55,530
talking to him Jimmy I actually walked

3208
02:25:59,511 --> 02:25:56,790
in the other room and I start smelling

3209
02:26:02,480 --> 02:25:59,521
jasmine flowers alright no no we're

3210
02:26:04,251 --> 02:26:02,490
exactly and I start going oh maybe this

3211
02:26:05,751 --> 02:26:04,261
isn't such a good idea right cuz

3212
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:05,761
Energy's energy and you don't have to

3213
02:26:10,581 --> 02:26:07,290
keep it in one room right like it's in

3214
02:26:12,350 --> 02:26:10,591
one place its energy is you know I could

3215
02:26:14,990 --> 02:26:12,360
be doing remote healing for instance and

3216
02:26:18,140 --> 02:26:15,000
it you know so I know the reality that

3217
02:26:19,911 --> 02:26:18,150
we're not protected right so this guy

3218
02:26:21,530 --> 02:26:19,921
says to me Mommy I'm gonna call you

3219
02:26:23,390 --> 02:26:21,540
something's going on right now I will

3220
02:26:25,310 --> 02:26:23,400
call you I'll call you tomorrow I'm like

3221
02:26:28,791 --> 02:26:25,320
ok and I'm thinking don't call me right

3222
02:26:30,621 --> 02:26:28,801
um so anyway he hangs up the phone he

3223
02:26:32,390 --> 02:26:30,631
doesn't call me the next day two days

3224
02:26:34,700 --> 02:26:32,400
later he calls me

3225
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:34,710
and he said well I ran into a little bit

3226
02:26:38,210 --> 02:26:36,450
of a problem he said when you were

3227
02:26:41,060 --> 02:26:38,220
talking to me on the phone and you told

3228
02:26:44,330 --> 02:26:41,070
me to use the holy water and so forth he

3229
02:26:48,140 --> 02:26:44,340
said my computer started on fire and it

3230
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:48,150
literally melted my keyboard it melted

3231
02:26:52,220 --> 02:26:50,160
the computer I had it you know the high

3232
02:26:53,690 --> 02:26:52,230
drive he said so I couldn't get ahold of

3233
02:26:55,130 --> 02:26:53,700
you right away because I had to go to

3234
02:26:58,670 --> 02:26:55,140
work at the Museum and get your

3235
02:27:00,680 --> 02:26:58,680
information again to call you and so I

3236
02:27:03,230 --> 02:27:00,690
thought oh this is you know this isn't

3237
02:27:05,841 --> 02:27:03,240
good so anyway I said look would you be

3238
02:27:07,761 --> 02:27:05,851
interested in talking to Ron and I you

3239
02:27:10,190 --> 02:27:07,771
know we'll do we'll talk to each other

3240
02:27:11,810 --> 02:27:10,200
and maybe do a radio show and try to

3241
02:27:16,570 --> 02:27:11,820
talk to you about what's going on and he

3242
02:27:19,341 --> 02:27:16,580
said sure so let me let me jump in and

3243
02:27:22,610 --> 02:27:19,351
we're gonna take a commercial break and

3244
02:27:24,620 --> 02:27:22,620
we're gonna come back and and finish

3245
02:27:30,110 --> 02:27:24,630
this I'm already I'm already

3246
02:27:32,750 --> 02:27:30,120
uncomfortable this is night two of our

3247
02:27:35,060 --> 02:27:32,760
Halloween night marinwood is here and of

3248
02:27:37,460 --> 02:27:35,070
course we're talking about her new book

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more ghost chronicles it's right there

3250
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and you can get it at Amazon and all of

3251
02:27:45,110 --> 02:27:43,021
the links for it are over at Jimmy

3252
02:27:46,670 --> 02:27:45,120
Church radio.com Moore with Maureen

3253
02:27:51,350 --> 02:27:46,680
right after this short break Maureen are

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02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:51,360
you on Twitter I am NOT okay that's good

3255
02:27:58,030 --> 02:27:54,000
enough we'll be right back after this

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02:28:15,480 --> 02:28:12,291
[Music]

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02:28:20,910 --> 02:28:15,490
and you are listen to my boy Jimmy

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Church Jimmy Church radio.com despite

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more than our fair share this is Jimmy

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3339
02:32:22,410 --> 02:32:33,741
[Music]

3340
02:32:37,341 --> 02:32:35,751
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

3341
02:32:40,881 --> 02:32:37,351
Hill Jimmy Church doing a little

3342
02:32:43,281 --> 02:32:40,891
overtime with her yes tonight Maureen

3343
02:32:44,930 --> 02:32:43,291
would kitten pin let Maureen go I'm

3344
02:32:47,991 --> 02:32:44,940
getting a little freaked out

3345
02:32:51,140 --> 02:32:48,001
it's night two of our Halloween week

3346
02:32:53,571 --> 02:32:51,150
here on fade to black and got into the

3347
02:32:57,171 --> 02:32:53,581
story of the Dybbuk box now first off

3348
02:32:59,631 --> 02:32:57,181
Maureen this yeah this is this got to be

3349
02:33:03,081 --> 02:32:59,641
a really really big deal and I remember

3350
02:33:05,381 --> 02:33:03,091
when the story broke I didn't know that

3351
02:33:09,350 --> 02:33:05,391
you got all involved in this eBay

3352
02:33:13,241 --> 02:33:09,360
situation with him Kevin so you were

3353
02:33:16,100 --> 02:33:13,251
talking directly with Kevin Kevin Mannis

3354
02:33:19,220 --> 02:33:16,110
you know I'm I'm awful with my Merion

3355
02:33:20,751 --> 02:33:19,230
name sometimes and I think it was or I

3356
02:33:22,611 --> 02:33:20,761
don't know if it was a gentleman who

3357
02:33:25,751 --> 02:33:22,621
bought it got it from him I know that

3358
02:33:28,581 --> 02:33:25,761
the person who had it actually had the

3359
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:28,591
was it working for a museum at the time

3360
02:33:34,821 --> 02:33:31,530
so he bound the Dybbuk box and put it in

3361
02:33:38,270 --> 02:33:34,831
the basement what you're right yeah what

3362
02:33:39,951 --> 02:33:38,280
year was this bad has to be oh my

3363
02:33:41,899 --> 02:33:39,961
goodness over 10 years ago

3364
02:33:48,109 --> 02:33:41,909
okay

3365
02:33:51,889 --> 02:33:48,119
is nuts this you know it's it's so nuts

3366
02:33:54,769 --> 02:33:51,899
yeah I just posted pictures of it and I

3367
02:33:57,710 --> 02:33:54,779
remember and I've talked about this a

3368
02:34:00,229 --> 02:33:57,720
few times on the show over the years but

3369
02:34:02,870 --> 02:34:00,239
you you just look at it and it's a it's

3370
02:34:06,340 --> 02:34:02,880
like a wine cabinet or something right

3371
02:34:07,519 --> 02:34:06,350
you look at it and you know what's wrong

3372
02:34:10,460 --> 02:34:07,529
okay

3373
02:34:13,580 --> 02:34:10,470
there was what broken tombstones that

3374
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:13,590
were in the air for I guess it was you

3375
02:34:17,300 --> 02:34:15,210
know part of bringing them into the

3376
02:34:19,969 --> 02:34:17,310
Jewish people into the concentration

3377
02:34:23,179 --> 02:34:19,979
camps they would have them walk on as an

3378
02:34:26,359 --> 02:34:23,189
insult walking on the stones right of

3379
02:34:28,370 --> 02:34:26,369
their loved ones the tombstones so there

3380
02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:28,380
had been I believe broken tombstone

3381
02:34:34,969 --> 02:34:32,489
pieces or also coins hair there was hair

3382
02:34:37,910 --> 02:34:34,979
that was inside you know it was it was

3383
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:37,920
at a very um you know you wouldn't think

3384
02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:40,880
that this would cause any kind of

3385
02:34:45,019 --> 02:34:43,050
paranormal event you know if you didn't

3386
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:45,029
know about it but the stories that went

3387
02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:46,560
along with this Dybbuk box were

3388
02:34:50,540 --> 02:34:47,330
frightening

3389
02:34:52,639 --> 02:34:50,550
and you know you sit there and you you

3390
02:34:55,309 --> 02:34:52,649
know we were interviewing this person at

3391
02:34:56,780 --> 02:34:55,319
the time and when we talked to him you

3392
02:34:59,510 --> 02:34:56,790
know one of the stories that really

3393
02:35:01,340 --> 02:34:59,520
jumps out at me was he said you know he

3394
02:35:03,740 --> 02:35:01,350
had when he originally got the Dybbuk

3395
02:35:05,450 --> 02:35:03,750
box he didn't really put too much stock

3396
02:35:08,990 --> 02:35:05,460
like you know proof from what was going

3397
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:09,000
on with it so before he bound it you

3398
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:10,290
know he was going to go off on this

3399
02:35:15,139 --> 02:35:12,210
business trip I guess so the Box had

3400
02:35:16,399 --> 02:35:15,149
been at his house so before he had taken

3401
02:35:19,130 --> 02:35:16,409
care of you know the steps to protect

3402
02:35:21,349 --> 02:35:19,140
themselves you know he said that outside

3403
02:35:23,780 --> 02:35:21,359
of his house was this tree that would

3404
02:35:25,820 --> 02:35:23,790
take literally maybe ten to 15 people

3405
02:35:28,099 --> 02:35:25,830
would have to stand circular around it

3406
02:35:30,710 --> 02:35:28,109
and hold the hands that's how big this

3407
02:35:33,950 --> 02:35:30,720
base of this big old oak tree was

3408
02:35:36,139 --> 02:35:33,960
outside of his house and he said what

3409
02:35:38,750 --> 02:35:36,149
happened was you know he was going on a

3410
02:35:40,429 --> 02:35:38,760
trip so he went to leave and he was I

3411
02:35:43,820 --> 02:35:40,439
don't know if he was at the airport or

3412
02:35:46,670 --> 02:35:43,830
he was going on the trip and he had made

3413
02:35:48,740 --> 02:35:46,680
some comment about the box and about it

3414
02:35:51,170 --> 02:35:48,750
not being you know what it thought it

3415
02:35:53,420 --> 02:35:51,180
was so he was talking to someone and at

3416
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:53,430
the same time that he was relaying that

3417
02:35:57,620 --> 02:35:55,200
information

3418
02:35:59,389 --> 02:35:57,630
the tree uprooted itself out of the

3419
02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:59,399
ground there wasn't any wind going on

3420
02:36:03,860 --> 02:36:01,920
there wasn't any sort of anything

3421
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:03,870
happening well the tree uprooted itself

3422
02:36:10,429 --> 02:36:05,280
and crashed through the roof of his

3423
02:36:13,610 --> 02:36:10,439
house yeah so I mean that's only the

3424
02:36:16,460 --> 02:36:13,620
small stories that you hear that was

3425
02:36:18,139 --> 02:36:16,470
taking place so I mean imagine this so

3426
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:18,149
you we said we were already saying how I

3427
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:19,530
was smelling you know the jasmine

3428
02:36:24,830 --> 02:36:22,290
flowers right right and I'm feeling all

3429
02:36:26,690 --> 02:36:24,840
of this you know I start feeling all

3430
02:36:28,130 --> 02:36:26,700
this energy and I was not comfortable at

3431
02:36:29,450 --> 02:36:28,140
all with this whole thing and I kept

3432
02:36:31,099 --> 02:36:29,460
saying to Ron you know maybe we should

3433
02:36:34,460 --> 02:36:31,109
cancel the radio show because I don't

3434
02:36:36,980 --> 02:36:34,470
want to really antagonize this this

3435
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:36,990
energy or this entity and then get into

3436
02:36:42,139 --> 02:36:39,930
a bad place and Ron being ron was like

3437
02:36:44,690 --> 02:36:42,149
oh come on what's gonna happen you know

3438
02:36:48,020 --> 02:36:44,700
let's let's just do the show said okay

3439
02:36:50,870 --> 02:36:48,030
so we interviewed this man we're on WCC

3440
02:36:54,710 --> 02:36:50,880
M and Lawrence Wright lives FM radio and

3441
02:36:57,500 --> 02:36:54,720
we're sitting there talking to this man

3442
02:37:00,080 --> 02:36:57,510
while all of a sudden we're as we're

3443
02:37:02,690 --> 02:37:00,090
talking to him you know the atmosphere

3444
02:37:05,929 --> 02:37:02,700
in the studio changed right it wasn't

3445
02:37:07,219 --> 02:37:05,939
just like you know before it was warm

3446
02:37:09,740 --> 02:37:07,229
right I think we talked them in the

3447
02:37:11,929 --> 02:37:09,750
winter so but for the summer I can't

3448
02:37:13,610 --> 02:37:11,939
recall but it with the room change like

3449
02:37:15,620 --> 02:37:13,620
you know how you can feel the change

3450
02:37:17,389 --> 02:37:15,630
where you can feel this cold breeze just

3451
02:37:18,290 --> 02:37:17,399
coming up from the ground yeah I'm

3452
02:37:22,790 --> 02:37:18,300
feeling it now

3453
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:22,800
so just feeling this cold breeze

3454
02:37:26,719 --> 02:37:24,810
surround you and I could feel that

3455
02:37:28,580 --> 02:37:26,729
energy and as this man's talking I'm

3456
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:28,590
thinking oh my god we just have to get

3457
02:37:33,950 --> 02:37:31,680
him off the phone and ron is now getting

3458
02:37:36,020 --> 02:37:33,960
agitated I could see it so I'm looking

3459
02:37:38,719 --> 02:37:36,030
at him and I'm thinking holy crap you

3460
02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:38,729
know we're now where we're supposed to

3461
02:37:41,960 --> 02:37:40,410
meet the whole team at the Windham

3462
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:41,970
restaurant in New Hampshire after we're

3463
02:37:45,410 --> 02:37:43,680
done this interview but now we're

3464
02:37:47,450 --> 02:37:45,420
literally at each other's throats so we

3465
02:37:49,550 --> 02:37:47,460
get off this radio station and we are

3466
02:37:52,250 --> 02:37:49,560
like Angry which each other and we're

3467
02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:52,260
bickering like we never did before and I

3468
02:37:55,250 --> 02:37:54,090
kept saying to him you know I told you

3469
02:37:57,080 --> 02:37:55,260
that we shouldn't have done this show

3470
02:37:58,940 --> 02:37:57,090
and blah blah blah and he's like oh stop

3471
02:38:01,219 --> 02:37:58,950
stop worrying about it this is fine

3472
02:38:03,020 --> 02:38:01,229
don't worry about it like okay while we

3473
02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,030
go out to the Windham restaurant you

3474
02:38:07,219 --> 02:38:05,280
know we're sitting there and Ron is

3475
02:38:08,479 --> 02:38:07,229
talking about the show and

3476
02:38:09,710 --> 02:38:08,489
as he's talking about the show I'm

3477
02:38:12,260 --> 02:38:09,720
looking at him like please don't bring

3478
02:38:14,269 --> 02:38:12,270
it up right don't start getting into

3479
02:38:15,859 --> 02:38:14,279
that you know conversation I don't I

3480
02:38:19,189 --> 02:38:15,869
don't want to deal with it well he goes

3481
02:38:20,719 --> 02:38:19,199
oh come on I'm bulletproof well I'm not

3482
02:38:22,429 --> 02:38:20,729
even kidding you it was like somebody

3483
02:38:24,769 --> 02:38:22,439
kicked the chair out from under him and

3484
02:38:26,359 --> 02:38:24,779
he went right back on the ground so

3485
02:38:29,389 --> 02:38:26,369
we're in the restaurant and now he's on

3486
02:38:31,639 --> 02:38:29,399
the floor his chair had tipped over so

3487
02:38:33,889 --> 02:38:31,649
he's like well ow he's a little shaken

3488
02:38:35,899 --> 02:38:33,899
right like no no he gets upset so that

3489
02:38:38,960 --> 02:38:35,909
was that was a fluke okay Ron

3490
02:38:40,910 --> 02:38:38,970
well maybe within 20 minutes later he's

3491
02:38:45,950 --> 02:38:40,920
like we're all leaving we're dispersing

3492
02:38:47,750 --> 02:38:45,960
from the you know the restaurant and he

3493
02:38:49,340 --> 02:38:47,760
had him and his wife leave and they're

3494
02:38:52,309 --> 02:38:49,350
in this small little Taurus or something

3495
02:38:56,029 --> 02:38:52,319
a white car and it's nighttime but it's

3496
02:38:58,910 --> 02:38:56,039
a white car right and he drives he goes

3497
02:39:01,279 --> 02:38:58,920
to this intersection and he goes to take

3498
02:39:04,099 --> 02:39:01,289
a turn on this road and he had the right

3499
02:39:07,099 --> 02:39:04,109
away and this car plowed right into the

3500
02:39:08,450 --> 02:39:07,109
side of him and you know the he got out

3501
02:39:10,790 --> 02:39:08,460
and he's like what's going on and the

3502
02:39:15,019 --> 02:39:10,800
guy looked he said I swear I never still

3503
02:39:17,330 --> 02:39:15,029
was no car I didn't see you at all yeah

3504
02:39:18,620 --> 02:39:17,340
and so why not always say remember what

3505
02:39:22,580 --> 02:39:18,630
happened tonight I said I was

3506
02:39:26,569 --> 02:39:22,590
bulletproof I mean yeah now and you're

3507
02:39:28,130 --> 02:39:26,579
saying that this was 10 years ago must

3508
02:39:30,410 --> 02:39:28,140
have been more than that actually and

3509
02:39:34,840 --> 02:39:30,420
what's what's interesting here Maureen

3510
02:39:41,059 --> 02:39:34,850
is that the box when it was opened in

3511
02:39:44,630 --> 02:39:41,069
2012 okay so no no hold on hold on check

3512
02:39:48,529 --> 02:39:44,640
this out when it was auctioned and and

3513
02:39:51,229 --> 02:39:48,539
and stuff in 2012 on eBay this is this

3514
02:39:53,660 --> 02:39:51,239
was at years after you had your

3515
02:39:59,450 --> 02:39:53,670
experience but when it was opened inside

3516
02:40:03,019 --> 02:39:59,460
in 2012 they found 1920s pennies a

3517
02:40:06,260 --> 02:40:03,029
locket blonde hair bound with a cord a

3518
02:40:08,450 --> 02:40:06,270
lock of black brown hair bound with the

3519
02:40:12,349 --> 02:40:08,460
cord a small statue engraved with the

3520
02:40:17,179 --> 02:40:12,359
Hebrew word Shalom a small golden wine

3521
02:40:18,801 --> 02:40:17,189
goblet a dried rosebud and a single

3522
02:40:24,530 --> 02:40:18,811
candle holder with

3523
02:40:28,160 --> 02:40:24,540
for octopus shaped legs okay there you

3524
02:40:32,330 --> 02:40:28,170
go and it's a yeah and that was in 2012

3525
02:40:34,820 --> 02:40:32,340
and so yes before that well your

3526
02:40:37,011 --> 02:40:34,830
verifying what was in the box and and

3527
02:40:41,001 --> 02:40:37,021
and so this was you know going back

3528
02:40:43,910 --> 02:40:41,011
years before it was opened in in 2012

3529
02:40:47,450 --> 02:40:43,920
and and the original owners of the box

3530
02:40:50,060 --> 02:40:47,460
that Jewish family they had said then

3531
02:40:56,270 --> 02:40:50,070
that the box was possessed by a dybbuk

3532
02:40:59,360 --> 02:40:56,280
which is a you know the Jewish demon or

3533
02:41:02,060 --> 02:40:59,370
devil or entity that lives inside the

3534
02:41:04,461 --> 02:41:02,070
box and you don't you don't open it

3535
02:41:06,560 --> 02:41:04,471
right don't open it right yeah I thought

3536
02:41:10,730 --> 02:41:06,570
buried with the person that's right and

3537
02:41:13,461 --> 02:41:10,740
and the original owner said that she

3538
02:41:16,370 --> 02:41:13,471
said that the Box had been kept in her

3539
02:41:19,610 --> 02:41:16,380
grandmother's sewing room and was never

3540
02:41:22,610 --> 02:41:19,620
opened because a dybbuk was said to live

3541
02:41:26,841 --> 02:41:22,620
inside of it and so it went from there

3542
02:41:29,091 --> 02:41:26,851
to the guy that you interviewed so many

3543
02:41:31,011 --> 02:41:29,101
years ago and then it eventually and

3544
02:41:32,540 --> 02:41:31,021
went through numerous owners oh it went

3545
02:41:35,660 --> 02:41:32,550
through numerous owners and I have to

3546
02:41:39,620 --> 02:41:35,670
say if you read the history of it it's

3547
02:41:41,540 --> 02:41:39,630
it's yeah it's horrifying they're you

3548
02:41:44,870 --> 02:41:41,550
know I think one of the first owners was

3549
02:41:48,761 --> 02:41:44,880
someone that had it like a antique store

3550
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:48,771
or like a pawn shop almost right and

3551
02:41:55,160 --> 02:41:52,410
they they had the box inside that

3552
02:41:57,530 --> 02:41:55,170
location and they started having issues

3553
02:42:00,711 --> 02:41:57,540
in the you know on in the basement like

3554
02:42:03,251 --> 02:42:00,721
of Jasmine's the smell of urine and the

3555
02:42:06,560 --> 02:42:03,261
smell of jasmine flowers and then the

3556
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:06,570
person who had been in that shop got

3557
02:42:10,220 --> 02:42:08,730
very ill so that was one of the signs

3558
02:42:12,501 --> 02:42:10,230
that every time someone owned it they'd

3559
02:42:15,350 --> 02:42:12,511
see this loping creature that would be

3560
02:42:17,390 --> 02:42:15,360
you know pretty much haunting them going

3561
02:42:19,551 --> 02:42:17,400
down their hallways and then they would

3562
02:42:22,790 --> 02:42:19,561
be losing their hair they would get very

3563
02:42:24,470 --> 02:42:22,800
ill and sick and there was like no

3564
02:42:27,440 --> 02:42:24,480
treatment as long as they had that box

3565
02:42:28,820 --> 02:42:27,450
they remained ill and as it passed hands

3566
02:42:30,890 --> 02:42:28,830
with different people I mean one person

3567
02:42:32,450 --> 02:42:30,900
it ended up back on someone bought it

3568
02:42:33,800 --> 02:42:32,460
from that shop and then

3569
02:42:35,180 --> 02:42:33,810
next thing they know they returned it

3570
02:42:37,040 --> 02:42:35,190
back in front of the shop because they

3571
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:37,050
didn't want it because they realized

3572
02:42:45,140 --> 02:42:40,560
they connected the pieces do you know

3573
02:42:47,570 --> 02:42:45,150
who's got it now you know I I lost track

3574
02:42:48,590 --> 02:42:47,580
of it because I decided that time and

3575
02:42:51,140 --> 02:42:48,600
I'm surprised I even brought it up

3576
02:42:52,250 --> 02:42:51,150
tonight but you know yes I'll tell you

3577
02:42:56,240 --> 02:42:52,260
Oh

3578
02:42:57,800 --> 02:42:56,250
zak bagans no way really yep yep we

3579
02:43:01,430 --> 02:42:57,810
should cut you wanna we should call them

3580
02:43:05,560 --> 02:43:01,440
right now ok call them nothing to column

3581
02:43:11,300 --> 02:43:05,570
got his number right here and now

3582
02:43:13,270 --> 02:43:11,310
there's before I can't not let you go

3583
02:43:16,490 --> 02:43:13,280
without talking about Robert the doll

3584
02:43:16,910 --> 02:43:16,500
have you have you checked out Robert the

3585
02:43:22,850 --> 02:43:16,920
doll

3586
02:43:28,060 --> 02:43:22,860
have a good friend who is a writer and

3587
02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:28,070
also you know her husband has been very

3588
02:43:34,430 --> 02:43:32,010
big Patrick Burns into the paranormal

3589
02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:34,440
for years so he does ghost tours out in

3590
02:43:40,070 --> 02:43:36,690
Savannah and they went down they lived

3591
02:43:41,870 --> 02:43:40,080
down there at Key West and they you know

3592
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:41,880
really were talking a lot about Rob at

3593
02:43:45,680 --> 02:43:44,010
the doll so personally myself no but

3594
02:43:47,270 --> 02:43:45,690
I've heard different stories yeah you

3595
02:43:50,120 --> 02:43:47,280
just look at the picture and you know

3596
02:43:52,010 --> 02:43:50,130
there's something incorrect I mean yeah

3597
02:43:55,280 --> 02:43:52,020
it's just wrong

3598
02:43:57,170 --> 02:43:55,290
I mean John Zaffis right I mean my

3599
02:43:58,640 --> 02:43:57,180
goodness I mean you obviously you're

3600
02:43:59,420 --> 02:43:58,650
familiar with Johnny Zaffis right

3601
02:44:01,910 --> 02:43:59,430
absolutely

3602
02:44:03,800 --> 02:44:01,920
yeah so I mean I've seen talks with him

3603
02:44:05,570 --> 02:44:03,810
many times we have--we've on you know

3604
02:44:07,810 --> 02:44:05,580
gone to conferences and so forth

3605
02:44:11,300 --> 02:44:07,820
together and he's a great guy but I

3606
02:44:14,030 --> 02:44:11,310
could not keep all of those make a

3607
02:44:16,760 --> 02:44:14,040
museum and keep all of these cursed

3608
02:44:19,070 --> 02:44:16,770
objects and you know I I heard stories

3609
02:44:21,740 --> 02:44:19,080
from him about you know having them in

3610
02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:21,750
his house at one point where he got so

3611
02:44:24,590 --> 02:44:23,040
many of them and he would have friends

3612
02:44:26,930 --> 02:44:24,600
that were priests that would come and

3613
02:44:28,760 --> 02:44:26,940
bind them and do some you know do

3614
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,770
prayers to bind them so that they

3615
02:44:32,090 --> 02:44:30,479
wouldn't have problems well when he was

3616
02:44:33,680 --> 02:44:32,100
going to you know his wife finally said

3617
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:33,690
you know you need to get these things

3618
02:44:37,280 --> 02:44:35,010
out of here

3619
02:44:38,690 --> 02:44:37,290
we I want to get rid of them and so

3620
02:44:41,780 --> 02:44:38,700
that's why he went to look to have a

3621
02:44:43,940 --> 02:44:41,790
museum set up well when he went to have

3622
02:44:45,260 --> 02:44:43,950
the priests you know from what I hear he

3623
02:44:46,810 --> 02:44:45,270
went to have the priests you know they

3624
02:44:48,640 --> 02:44:46,820
to move

3625
02:44:50,470 --> 02:44:48,650
he said it was like you know when you

3626
02:44:52,151 --> 02:44:50,480
have a windy day with leaves everywhere

3627
02:44:55,361 --> 02:44:52,161
he said everything was like in the room

3628
02:44:59,051 --> 02:44:55,371
was just whipping around and turbulent

3629
02:45:01,270 --> 02:44:59,061
so yeah to me that's very creepy I would

3630
02:45:03,731 --> 02:45:01,280
you know I'm good about not having any

3631
02:45:06,821 --> 02:45:03,741
cursed objects around me thank you what

3632
02:45:11,501 --> 02:45:06,831
side let's let's let's finish the

3633
02:45:15,850 --> 02:45:11,511
evening with the attack of the puck wuji

3634
02:45:19,621 --> 02:45:15,860
oh you would ask about I have to know

3635
02:45:22,541 --> 02:45:19,631
right I have to know yeah you know what

3636
02:45:24,281 --> 02:45:22,551
that was you know I it's I feel like I'm

3637
02:45:25,841 --> 02:45:24,291
repeating myself but yeah that was a

3638
02:45:28,600 --> 02:45:25,851
crazy night you know we were supposed

3639
02:45:30,251 --> 02:45:28,610
they're all crazy right it was crazy but

3640
02:45:31,781 --> 02:45:30,261
Ryan said you know let's go we're gonna

3641
02:45:33,671 --> 02:45:31,791
go we're just gonna want the woods for

3642
02:45:35,801 --> 02:45:33,681
you know walk and hide dress warm

3643
02:45:38,741 --> 02:45:35,811
you know we're hiking boots and whatever

3644
02:45:40,091 --> 02:45:38,751
we'll be fine and so you know bring your

3645
02:45:42,731 --> 02:45:40,101
pendulum I'm thinking I should have

3646
02:45:44,621 --> 02:45:42,741
known but we get the air when we get

3647
02:45:46,991 --> 02:45:44,631
there he goes yeah he says we're gonna

3648
02:45:49,151 --> 02:45:47,001
investigate with Chris belzoni the POC

3649
02:45:51,310 --> 02:45:49,161
wedgie and I'm like really he goes an

3650
02:45:53,201 --> 02:45:51,320
elemental now not trying to be a snob or

3651
02:45:56,770 --> 02:45:53,211
anything but I'm not you know I never

3652
02:45:58,751 --> 02:45:56,780
really bought into some things so I'm

3653
02:46:00,581 --> 02:45:58,761
like okay whatever so I'm just thinking

3654
02:46:02,651 --> 02:46:00,591
it's pretty much a walk in the woods did

3655
02:46:08,081 --> 02:46:02,661
you know what a puck wedgie was at that

3656
02:46:11,941 --> 02:46:08,091
point no okay what you know what briefly

3657
02:46:16,091 --> 02:46:11,951
for the audience what is a puck was he a

3658
02:46:18,941 --> 02:46:16,101
gnome like creature right that if I had

3659
02:46:22,180 --> 02:46:18,951
to describe it you know it it's about

3660
02:46:23,680 --> 02:46:22,190
two foot tall it's it started off as

3661
02:46:27,551 --> 02:46:23,690
like a prankster right it looks like

3662
02:46:30,401 --> 02:46:27,561
this little ape creature almost and it

3663
02:46:33,751 --> 02:46:30,411
supposedly was like a trickster for the

3664
02:46:36,611 --> 02:46:33,761
Native Americans so in the you know the

3665
02:46:38,850 --> 02:46:36,621
Bridgewater triangle area where this

3666
02:46:42,850 --> 02:46:38,860
puck hua ji has been known to inhabit

3667
02:46:45,220 --> 02:46:42,860
it's supposed to lead people in and lure

3668
02:46:47,321 --> 02:46:45,230
them in with these lights and when the

3669
02:46:49,930 --> 02:46:47,331
people get lost in the forest others

3670
02:46:51,220 --> 02:46:49,940
have been attacked or you know the

3671
02:46:54,310 --> 02:46:51,230
people have jumped off cliffs and

3672
02:46:57,341 --> 02:46:54,320
committed suicide so they're attributing

3673
02:46:59,310 --> 02:46:57,351
this a lot to the puck Wu Jie right this

3674
02:47:01,680 --> 02:46:59,320
little elemental creature

3675
02:47:05,281 --> 02:47:01,690
that supposedly started off as a

3676
02:47:08,071 --> 02:47:05,291
trickster but then went bad and so Ron

3677
02:47:11,281 --> 02:47:08,081
talks you into this yeah pretty much I

3678
02:47:13,890 --> 02:47:11,291
mean and again gullible me uh I go and

3679
02:47:17,310 --> 02:47:13,900
think yeah no big deal you know we're

3680
02:47:20,701 --> 02:47:17,320
going for walk but you know again you

3681
02:47:22,470 --> 02:47:20,711
don't know to you know I guess so we get

3682
02:47:24,661 --> 02:47:22,480
out there and we're walking around and

3683
02:47:26,251 --> 02:47:24,671
now it's getting dark and honestly it

3684
02:47:27,511 --> 02:47:26,261
felt like somebody was following us the

3685
02:47:29,341 --> 02:47:27,521
whole time and I was getting very

3686
02:47:31,470 --> 02:47:29,351
creeped out and I thought yeah maybe

3687
02:47:31,770 --> 02:47:31,480
it's a little more going on than meets

3688
02:47:34,951 --> 02:47:31,780
the eye

3689
02:47:36,481 --> 02:47:34,961
so we had thermal D and we called him

3690
02:47:39,031 --> 02:47:36,491
and our team at the time and he had a

3691
02:47:40,861 --> 02:47:39,041
thermal-imaging camera and he was

3692
02:47:43,621 --> 02:47:40,871
walking with me with another individual

3693
02:47:45,390 --> 02:47:43,631
clay and you know I'm saying you know

3694
02:47:47,071 --> 02:47:45,400
wow there's someone following us I can

3695
02:47:49,651 --> 02:47:47,081
feel it you know they're they're like

3696
02:47:51,001 --> 02:47:49,661
waiting to pounce and you know they're

3697
02:47:53,220 --> 02:47:51,011
like oh so he puts the the

3698
02:47:57,151 --> 02:47:53,230
thermal-imaging camera up to the woods

3699
02:47:59,310 --> 02:47:57,161
and it was as if they said it was like

3700
02:48:02,761 --> 02:47:59,320
the face of scream you know when you see

3701
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:02,771
the it started morphing into this face

3702
02:48:06,901 --> 02:48:04,570
at these eyes and the mouth wide open

3703
02:48:08,881 --> 02:48:06,911
and it started coming closer but as it

3704
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:08,891
was coming closer I'm feeling the energy

3705
02:48:15,511 --> 02:48:13,690
it literally jumped right in me so you

3706
02:48:19,381 --> 02:48:15,521
know unfortunately there are videos with

3707
02:48:20,821 --> 02:48:19,391
me cursing hissing spitting Ron came

3708
02:48:22,621 --> 02:48:20,831
back to try to help and we were

3709
02:48:24,781 --> 02:48:22,631
wrestling on the ground and it wasn't

3710
02:48:28,741 --> 02:48:24,791
just one event during the night Jimmy it

3711
02:48:30,361 --> 02:48:28,751
was - the second time it happened we

3712
02:48:32,491 --> 02:48:30,371
were near the ledge where people were

3713
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:32,501
committing suicide mm-hmm

3714
02:48:36,720 --> 02:48:35,110
and we were near the water and as I'm

3715
02:48:38,551 --> 02:48:36,730
standing there everybody's looking out

3716
02:48:42,390 --> 02:48:38,561
at the water and I start feeling this

3717
02:48:44,251 --> 02:48:42,400
thing again and I it was so bizarre

3718
02:48:46,381 --> 02:48:44,261
because you know how I said I feel what

3719
02:48:48,331 --> 02:48:46,391
they feel right so I'm over there

3720
02:48:50,341 --> 02:48:48,341
feeling like I want to run up a tree and

3721
02:48:53,161 --> 02:48:50,351
I thought okay I'm really losing my mind

3722
02:48:56,401 --> 02:48:53,171
right now because I just felt this urge

3723
02:48:58,051 --> 02:48:56,411
to just run and just scream and yell and

3724
02:48:59,761 --> 02:48:58,061
I'm thinking what the hell is going on

3725
02:49:02,881 --> 02:48:59,771
and the next thing I know I'm being

3726
02:49:05,671 --> 02:49:02,891
tackled to the ground from Ron and Chris

3727
02:49:06,901 --> 02:49:05,681
belzoni like they're football people but

3728
02:49:09,241 --> 02:49:06,911
they said you know they were afraid that

3729
02:49:10,889 --> 02:49:09,251
I was going to go into the water because

3730
02:49:14,460 --> 02:49:10,899
I was backing up and

3731
02:49:16,639 --> 02:49:14,470
you know and under a I remember Chris

3732
02:49:23,189 --> 02:49:16,649
pals I know from the Bridgewater's oh

3733
02:49:25,380 --> 02:49:23,199
yes he yeah years ago he was on this

3734
02:49:28,170 --> 02:49:25,390
show I haven't talked to him in probably

3735
02:49:31,290 --> 02:49:28,180
five years Chris belzoni yeah okay so do

3736
02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:31,300
you Chris you get tackled what happens

3737
02:49:36,300 --> 02:49:34,630
so what happens is so they they tackle

3738
02:49:38,689 --> 02:49:36,310
me and if you see the video which

3739
02:49:41,429 --> 02:49:38,699
unfortunately is out on many like

3740
02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:41,439
television cable stations it was in one

3741
02:49:46,739 --> 02:49:43,930
of the movies that was out for the

3742
02:49:50,670 --> 02:49:46,749
Bridgewater triangle and so it's out

3743
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:50,680
there to be seen but you know I'm

3744
02:49:55,439 --> 02:49:53,439
hissing and growling and it sounds it

3745
02:49:56,729 --> 02:49:55,449
sound it scares me so when I look at it

3746
02:49:58,769 --> 02:49:56,739
I don't like seeing it because it's

3747
02:49:59,489 --> 02:49:58,779
terrifying you know to see yourself in

3748
02:50:03,149 --> 02:49:59,499
that state

3749
02:50:07,409 --> 02:50:03,159
well after it's all done and said you

3750
02:50:09,659 --> 02:50:07,419
know when I kind of was myself again the

3751
02:50:12,659 --> 02:50:09,669
odd part was I thought you know when you

3752
02:50:14,609 --> 02:50:12,669
taste blood like you you taste pennies

3753
02:50:15,659 --> 02:50:14,619
right like you get that metal taste in

3754
02:50:18,989 --> 02:50:15,669
your mouth yes

3755
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:18,999
so I after I thought I bit my tongue or

3756
02:50:22,949 --> 02:50:21,130
I was bleeding so I'm over there putting

3757
02:50:26,609 --> 02:50:22,959
my hands in my mouth like did I cut

3758
02:50:29,010 --> 02:50:26,619
myself and I didn't I had no cut no bite

3759
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:29,020
of my tongue but yet my mouth tasted

3760
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:30,970
like I just swallowed something was all

3761
02:50:36,269 --> 02:50:33,760
full of blood and again I had that urge

3762
02:50:37,620 --> 02:50:36,279
to run and scream and in Ron I think got

3763
02:50:39,300 --> 02:50:37,630
a little nervous too and I think that

3764
02:50:40,559 --> 02:50:39,310
night was the night I dislocated his

3765
02:50:43,380 --> 02:50:40,569
finger he had to get his wedding ring

3766
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:43,390
cut off and he had just had open-heart

3767
02:50:47,279 --> 02:50:45,130
surgery like a few months before that

3768
02:50:49,109 --> 02:50:47,289
and I'm over there wrestling and he's

3769
02:50:50,729 --> 02:50:49,119
wrestling me to the ground which

3770
02:50:52,590 --> 02:50:50,739
probably was not the smartest thing for

3771
02:50:55,559 --> 02:50:52,600
either one of us to do but it wasn't

3772
02:50:58,409 --> 02:50:55,569
planned it just kind of happened what

3773
02:51:02,449 --> 02:50:58,419
what what is it about that area you know

3774
02:51:05,219 --> 02:51:02,459
Boston Salem the Bridgewater triangle

3775
02:51:08,639 --> 02:51:05,229
this goes yeah this goes back centuries

3776
02:51:12,059 --> 02:51:08,649
this isn't anything new this is I know

3777
02:51:15,330 --> 02:51:12,069
what what is it about the area and what

3778
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:15,340
about what is I'm trying to remember the

3779
02:51:21,269 --> 02:51:18,010
name of it the little that little Hut in

3780
02:51:22,800 --> 02:51:21,279
the middle of the crazy clown hut in the

3781
02:51:23,291 --> 02:51:22,810
middle of the Bridgewater triangle in

3782
02:51:26,530 --> 02:51:23,301
the wood

3783
02:51:28,421 --> 02:51:26,540
oh well I know that you know I know some

3784
02:51:29,801 --> 02:51:28,431
of the history of it where they think

3785
02:51:33,041 --> 02:51:29,811
that there's been a lot of satanic

3786
02:51:35,860 --> 02:51:33,051
rituals that have taken place yes yeah

3787
02:51:37,570 --> 02:51:35,870
so I mean those are and they have so

3788
02:51:41,801 --> 02:51:37,580
many unexplained lights that they see

3789
02:51:43,961 --> 02:51:41,811
and again they can't understand why it's

3790
02:51:47,610 --> 02:51:43,971
the place the biggest place where

3791
02:51:53,470 --> 02:51:52,180
it can't be coincidence no it can't

3792
02:51:55,451 --> 02:51:53,480
it's got to be there's some energy

3793
02:51:57,430 --> 02:51:55,461
there's who knows if there's ley lines

3794
02:52:00,940 --> 02:51:57,440
if there's like a weird energy source

3795
02:52:04,121 --> 02:52:00,950
there but you know I don't know I mean

3796
02:52:07,091 --> 02:52:04,131
anywhere that you talk about satanic

3797
02:52:08,560 --> 02:52:07,101
rituals I think that you're you know

3798
02:52:11,591 --> 02:52:08,570
you're opening up all these different

3799
02:52:13,301 --> 02:52:11,601
pockets let's say of energy that is not

3800
02:52:16,720 --> 02:52:13,311
doing anybody any good yeah

3801
02:52:20,230 --> 02:52:16,730
and right now I'm like four episodes in

3802
02:52:22,810 --> 02:52:20,240
to the new I'm gonna say it the new

3803
02:52:28,121 --> 02:52:22,820
Sabrina the Teenage Witch right I think

3804
02:52:33,430 --> 02:52:28,131
it's a Netflix or Adam and where does it

3805
02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:33,440
take place in your neighborhood in fact

3806
02:52:36,341 --> 02:52:34,730
it's funny because my husband is

3807
02:52:37,810 --> 02:52:36,351
laughing at me cuz I just happened to

3808
02:52:39,491 --> 02:52:37,820
cross it a couple days ago and I'm

3809
02:52:42,791 --> 02:52:39,501
already at like I don't know seven

3810
02:52:44,560 --> 02:52:42,801
episodes it's good it is good I think

3811
02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:44,570
it's great it was funny my daughter's

3812
02:52:51,671 --> 02:52:47,330
name is Sabrina the oh really

3813
02:52:55,241 --> 02:52:51,681
okay this isn't the Sabrina the Teenage

3814
02:52:59,831 --> 02:52:55,251
Witch from the Disney Channel this this

3815
02:53:03,400 --> 02:52:59,841
is a whole nother Sabrina yes in the

3816
02:53:05,770 --> 02:53:03,410
first episode first or second I don't

3817
02:53:07,780 --> 02:53:05,780
know which one it is but when when the

3818
02:53:10,751 --> 02:53:07,790
teacher gets stabbed in the neck with

3819
02:53:12,701 --> 02:53:10,761
the scissors right okay and in the blood

3820
02:53:16,841 --> 02:53:12,711
and it's going ever I turn to read and I

3821
02:53:19,661 --> 02:53:16,851
go this this ain't that Sabrina no no

3822
02:53:22,900 --> 02:53:19,671
she's what half half human and half

3823
02:53:24,341 --> 02:53:22,910
witch yes right and if you notice a lot

3824
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:24,351
of the characters or the other a lot of

3825
02:53:29,621 --> 02:53:27,410
the ones they talk about are almost

3826
02:53:31,091 --> 02:53:29,631
characters in different stories right

3827
02:53:34,091 --> 02:53:31,101
have you noticed that there's like some

3828
02:53:36,850 --> 02:53:34,101
of their their um Faustus you got fouls

3829
02:53:40,091 --> 02:53:39,190
but man I'll tell you it is it's very

3830
02:53:42,940 --> 02:53:40,101
addictive

3831
02:53:47,230 --> 02:53:42,950
I'm so into it and I I don't you know

3832
02:53:49,150 --> 02:53:47,240
see this is the thing I don't care what

3833
02:53:52,541 --> 02:53:49,160
people think about me that's the first

3834
02:53:55,841 --> 02:53:52,551
thing but if and if I'm gonna say as a

3835
02:53:58,060 --> 02:53:55,851
55 year old grown man that I'm watching

3836
02:53:59,921 --> 02:53:58,070
Sabrina the Teenage Witch and people

3837
02:54:02,831 --> 02:53:59,931
want to pass judgment well you know what

3838
02:54:06,551 --> 02:54:02,841
you haven't seen it you have you need to

3839
02:54:10,030 --> 02:54:06,561
go and check it out it is really really

3840
02:54:12,371 --> 02:54:10,040
cool and really well-written well and so

3841
02:54:15,400 --> 02:54:12,381
was the book Maureen thank you for

3842
02:54:18,131 --> 02:54:15,410
everything tonight I look forward to

3843
02:54:20,171 --> 02:54:18,141
actually having you back on when we're

3844
02:54:22,060 --> 02:54:20,181
not telling stories let's just talk

3845
02:54:23,940 --> 02:54:22,070
about investigations and your techniques

3846
02:54:26,850 --> 02:54:23,950
and I would like to have Ron on the show

3847
02:54:29,741 --> 02:54:26,860
where can everybody go and get the book

3848
02:54:32,261 --> 02:54:29,751
it's available at Barnes & Noble you can

3849
02:54:33,640 --> 02:54:32,271
actually go on amazon.com as well and

3850
02:54:35,381 --> 02:54:33,650
you can order it from there

3851
02:54:38,470 --> 02:54:35,391
and a lot of different books all those

3852
02:54:39,791 --> 02:54:38,480
are carrying it are you and Ron I know

3853
02:54:42,100 --> 02:54:39,801
that you mentioned that you were

3854
02:54:43,900 --> 02:54:42,110
speaking today what are you guys doing

3855
02:54:46,991 --> 02:54:43,910
out there publicly where people can go

3856
02:54:48,640 --> 02:54:47,001
and listen to you guys well we have been

3857
02:54:50,350 --> 02:54:48,650
doing for the last month and a half

3858
02:54:52,841 --> 02:54:50,360
we've been doing a lot of you know

3859
02:54:54,730 --> 02:54:52,851
college talking to call at colleges and

3860
02:54:57,131 --> 02:54:54,740
libraries locally in the area last night

3861
02:55:00,551 --> 02:54:57,141
we're at Tewksbury library in

3862
02:55:02,350 --> 02:55:00,561
Massachusetts you know we're doing again

3863
02:55:06,091 --> 02:55:02,360
like a lot of radio interviews radio

3864
02:55:08,980 --> 02:55:06,101
shows but in fact Friday night we have a

3865
02:55:10,751 --> 02:55:08,990
little mini investigation I guess that

3866
02:55:14,320 --> 02:55:10,761
we're doing but unfortunately that one's

3867
02:55:17,951 --> 02:55:14,330
private so it's you know if you just go

3868
02:55:20,381 --> 02:55:17,961
on any ghost project calm to Ron's

3869
02:55:21,461 --> 02:55:20,391
website and you can find all the

3870
02:55:23,860 --> 02:55:21,471
different happenings that have taken

3871
02:55:26,440 --> 02:55:23,870
place thank you so much Maureen what a

3872
02:55:29,530 --> 02:55:26,450
great conversation I had so much fun and

3873
02:55:32,470 --> 02:55:29,540
I can only imagine what your Halloween

3874
02:55:34,751 --> 02:55:32,480
is going to be like tomorrow night go

3875
02:55:36,820 --> 02:55:34,761
and and do it and do it correctly and be

3876
02:55:38,741 --> 02:55:36,830
safe thank you so much thank you so much

3877
02:55:40,600 --> 02:55:38,751
have a great night Thank You Maureen a

3878
02:55:45,041 --> 02:55:40,610
great conversation thank you so much

3879
02:55:47,261 --> 02:55:45,051
thanks Bobby the book is more ghost

3880
02:55:48,740 --> 02:55:47,271
chronicles and again the links are over

3881
02:55:51,050 --> 02:55:48,750
at a Jimmy Church radio

3882
02:55:54,320 --> 02:55:51,060
dot-com and what a great conversation

3883
02:55:56,660 --> 02:55:54,330
tonight and I did I turned down the

3884
02:56:00,170 --> 02:55:56,670
lights here in the studio I usually keep

3885
02:56:03,230 --> 02:56:00,180
a pretty dark in here but tonight I want

3886
02:56:05,540 --> 02:56:03,240
extra dark and I was looking at some of

3887
02:56:06,710 --> 02:56:05,550
the comments in Twitter is there any way

3888
02:56:09,320 --> 02:56:06,720
to get the fuzziness

3889
02:56:12,200 --> 02:56:09,330
out I'm done letting you guys know you

3890
02:56:14,300 --> 02:56:12,210
know in in in the bunker cam I turn the

3891
02:56:17,210 --> 02:56:14,310
lights down I turn the lights down

3892
02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:17,220
tonight and I got it nice and dark so

3893
02:56:22,250 --> 02:56:19,770
there you go that's what's going on I'm

3894
02:56:24,440 --> 02:56:22,260
I'm looking at myself over here in the

3895
02:56:27,140 --> 02:56:24,450
monitors it's dark in here

3896
02:56:28,820 --> 02:56:27,150
yeah and I really enjoyed it so I hope

3897
02:56:32,180 --> 02:56:28,830
everybody has some great dreams tonight

3898
02:56:34,970 --> 02:56:32,190
the book is more goes to chronicles now

3899
02:56:37,760 --> 02:56:34,980
tomorrow night again I've got to give

3900
02:56:40,430 --> 02:56:37,770
everybody the heads up we have sha de

3901
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,440
Lune which also from Massachusetts on

3902
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:42,720
with this tomorrow night for our fifth

3903
02:56:49,220 --> 02:56:45,840
annual shava loon which Halloween

3904
02:56:51,950 --> 02:56:49,230
special event and we are going to go

3905
02:56:54,980 --> 02:56:51,960
through about 100 readings and phone

3906
02:56:56,780 --> 02:56:54,990
calls tomorrow night and with everybody

3907
02:57:00,440 --> 02:56:56,790
you know what it's like it's going to be

3908
02:57:02,960 --> 02:57:00,450
very very busy on the phones just all we

3909
02:57:06,640 --> 02:57:02,970
need is your name and a question and

3910
02:57:10,460 --> 02:57:06,650
we'll get you in and out and also

3911
02:57:11,930 --> 02:57:10,470
tomorrow night if you happen to get

3912
02:57:14,750 --> 02:57:11,940
through on the phones tomorrow night and

3913
02:57:18,410 --> 02:57:14,760
you were with Shaw in any of the past

3914
02:57:22,220 --> 02:57:18,420
years briefly I want to hear from you

3915
02:57:24,530 --> 02:57:22,230
briefly what happened with the

3916
02:57:27,080 --> 02:57:24,540
predictions from the years gone past and

3917
02:57:29,180 --> 02:57:27,090
we've had many many calls like that over

3918
02:57:31,730 --> 02:57:29,190
the year so I do want to hear from you

3919
02:57:33,860 --> 02:57:31,740
tomorrow night so with that that

3920
02:57:36,290 --> 02:57:33,870
concludes another fade to black and and

3921
02:57:39,350 --> 02:57:36,300
I want to thank Maureen wood for coming

3922
02:57:41,960 --> 02:57:39,360
in great stories the book is fantastic

3923
02:57:45,410 --> 02:57:41,970
and how about that new london ledge

3924
02:57:47,540 --> 02:57:45,420
white house huh is that crazy I'm

3925
02:57:49,820 --> 02:57:47,550
watching everybody's comments totally

3926
02:57:51,110 --> 02:57:49,830
cool I'll see everybody here tomorrow

3927
02:57:54,970 --> 02:57:51,120
night on fade to black

3928
02:57:58,330 --> 02:57:54,980
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3929
02:58:01,301 --> 02:57:58,340
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3930
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3931
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3937
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copied or used anywhere in the known

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universe without written permission from

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paid to block of the game-changer

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network I'm out of here

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Rita and I are gonna go find a taco

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truck because it's Taco Tuesday until

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tomorrow night I am your host Jimmy

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Church follow me on Twitter @ JT radio

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everybody be safe go back leads happy

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[Music]

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[Applause]